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Old 05-12-2010, 05:21 PM   #76
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ROY is voted on by the media only.

The only time where fans vote is with the Pro Bowl.
complete horse s btw, they really need to not let stupid ass fans vote, it should be all players for everything. half of the guys in the ap never played sports anyways
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:30 PM   #77
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To his credit P.King said no to voting for Cushing and voted for Clay Matthews instead. I'm still in shock that 18 of the 29 previous voters still supported him as DROY. Unbelievable that writers could be that obtuse.
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To his credit P.King said no to voting for Cushing and voted for Clay Matthews instead. I'm still in shock that 18 of the 29 previous voters still supported him as DROY. Unbelievable that writers could be that obtuse.
Says alot when it comes to football and PED's. Alot of people just don't care.

I would bet a MLB vote under the same circumstances would have gone in a completely different direction.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:42 PM   #79
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[QUOTE=mlmdub130;700627]complete horse s btw, they really need to not let stupid ass fans vote, it should be all players for everything. half of the guys in the ap never played sports anyways[/QUOTE]


Aint that the truth, imagine reporters being judged by athletes on their articles it would never happen, but reporters can vote on athletes. You know 65% of the vote is probably based on the athletes who are most friendly to the reporters.
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Says alot when it comes to football and PED's. Alot of people just don't care.

I would bet a MLB vote under the same circumstances would have gone in a completely different direction.
Agreed. Clayton voted for Matthews, Mort abstained. Cushing shouldn't have been in the ballot this time around.
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:49 PM   #81
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And finally, a few notes that are too bizarre not to include:

1. Chris Berman has a vote. Really?

2. Poor Brian Orakpo lost two voters, who changed their mind and chose other non-Cushing defenders. Strange.

3. Howie Long was "Not available." Taping a truck commercial, perhaps?
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They shouldn't have even bothered with the re-vote. It just looks like more of a joke now.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:47 PM   #83
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Agreed. Clayton voted for Matthews, Mort abstained. Cushing shouldn't have been in the ballot this time around.
I disagree. He should have been on the ballot but gotten 0 votes which would have worked out great if it hadn't been for the 18 idiots with votes. Having Cushing loose his DROY award would have helped send a message to kids that the general public won't support steroid use. In fact thats the part that worries me the most, seeing as how it will now send a message to high school kids that the ends justify the means.

Way to go sportswriters. Freaking F+. I mean do we really have to be so strict as to leave Cushing off the ballot for them to get it right? Thats the kind of treatment I would expect to be reserved for children, only problem is today they proved they were worthy of such treatment.
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To me it's just a waste of time to re vote. The games have already been played, the guy had a monster year and the season is over with.
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Old 05-12-2010, 09:36 PM   #86
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Him getting revoted for rookie of the year is the largest double standard I've ever seen in my life. These are the same hypocritical dolts who refuse to vote for Big Mac to the HOF. Also, I can't recall the word "cheating" being associated with Brian Kushing either. Whenever you heard the name Barry Bonds, or Big Mac, the word "cheat" would soon follow. These sportswriters are a joke.
Baseball is just retarded. To me the media drives all the crying over roids in baseball. It's like they pretty much ignore that the pitchers were doing it. Yet when a hitter does it they can't stop talking about for 10 straight days. I personally don't care cause everyone was taking juice. Actually I can't stand baseball so I really don't even care. lol.
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You guys are all wrong.

BRIAN CUSHING IS THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE WORLD.

I encourage EVERY young athlete to do drugs. Get your hands on the best steroids money can buy. It CLEARLY pays off. In baseball, football, wherever. Just try not to get caught UNTIL you've played for a while and gotten paid.

In the end - a mediocre young athlete can bust his butt off and fail -- and bag groceries at Safeway. OR - he could use steroids and get drafted, get millions of dollars and even get DROY. What happens if you get caught? You get to keep your awards, keep your MILLIONS, and you even get one month more vacation in September. Four game suspension is nothing, and if anything it encourages more people to do it. Why wouldn't a player like Justin Tryon or Rob Jackson start taking steroids? If they don't make the team their lives are marginal if not over. And the penalty is obviously small -- no one apparently cares.

I think there are two parties at fault:
1) Sports leagues (& Congress) -- harsher penalties for crimes such as this. He should've lost his DROY and probably should have been suspended the season since he was already suspected of prior drug use.

2) Fans - including ourselves. We still buy tickets to watch ARod, Bonds, Shawne Merriman.. And Houston fans will still cheer Cushing by next year when he gets that interception for a touchdown...


[disclaimer: i actually do not think anyone should do steroids. i'm just pointing out that given the current regulations and punishments, it makes financial sense to do so because it is not really punished]

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Baseball is just retarded. To me the media drives all the crying over roids in baseball. It's like they pretty much ignore that the pitchers were doing it. Yet when a hitter does it they can't stop talking about for 10 straight days. I personally don't care cause everyone was taking juice. Actually I can't stand baseball so I really don't even care. lol.
lol yeah pitchers were the MOST likely to test positive
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You guys are all wrong.

BRIAN CUSHING IS THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE WORLD.

I encourage EVERY young athlete to do drugs. Get your hands on the best steroids money can buy. It CLEARLY pays off. In baseball, football, wherever. Just try not to get caught UNTIL you've played for a while and gotten paid.

In the end - a mediocre young athlete can bust his butt off and fail -- and bag groceries at Safeway. OR - he could use steroids and get drafted, get millions of dollars and even get DROY. What happens if you get caught? You get to keep your awards, keep your MILLIONS, and you even get one month more vacation in September. Four game suspension is nothing, and if anything it encourages more people to do it. Why wouldn't a player like Justin Tryon or Rob Jackson start taking steroids? If they don't make the team their lives are marginal if not over. And the penalty is obviously small -- no one apparently cares.

I think there are two parties at fault:
1) Sports leagues (& Congress) -- harsher penalties for crimes such as this. He should've lost his DROY and probably should have been suspended the season since he was already suspected of prior drug use.

2) Fans - including ourselves. We still buy tickets to watch ARod, Bonds.. And Houston fans will still cheer Cushing by next year when he gets that interception for a touchdown...


[disclaimer: i actually do not think anyone should do steroids. i'm just pointing out that given the current regulations and punishments, it makes financial sense to do so because it is not really punished]
Too late to make the big time first round contract bucks.

This really isn't the NFL's problem. If anything, it suggests that it's testing system, which caught Cushing, is about as effective as any system out there. So they suspended him, because they caught him.

If he's a habitual user, and I'm not saying he is or isn't, then the big story here is that they NCAA's testing system blows, or more likely, it's not actually a random system. The Texans were perfectly justified taking Cushing where they did and giving him all that money, because he wasn't just a one year wonder breakout player who slipped through the cracks one year, but rather, he was a four year player, and nearly a three year starter at USC who never once got caught in college, where there is actually plenty of interest around keeping student athletes away from drugs.

I don't give a crap what professional athletes put in their bodies. If this is your way of making a living, and you can comply with the policies of your league, I don't care if a guy needs eighteen pills and three cortizone shots (cortizone is an anabolic steroid) to get through the day. If that's what makes him perform his best, then he should do it. If he breaks an existing rule, then he takes his suspension like a man. Don't do it again. More specifically, don't get caught.

To recap: NCAA testing, woefully inadequate. NFL testing, excellent. I don't know if Cushing gets my vote for DROY over Orakpo or Matthews (specifically Matthews), but the whole idea of a revote is moronic. And good for the football writers for not making like the baseball writers moral majority. Again, I don't know if Cushing's on field play made him the best rookie, but apparently, those with a vote did feel that way, so that conversation should have been over at that point.
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This really isn't the NFL's problem. If anything, it suggests that it's testing system, which caught Cushing, is about as effective as any system out there. So they suspended him, because they caught him.
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I don't give a crap what professional athletes put in their bodies. If this is your way of making a living, and you can comply with the policies of your league, I don't care if a guy needs eighteen pills and three cortizone shots (cortizone is an anabolic steroid) to get through the day. If that's what makes him perform his best, then he should do it. If he breaks an existing rule, then he takes his suspension like a man. Don't do it again. More specifically, don't get caught.

To recap: NCAA testing, woefully inadequate. NFL testing, excellent.

Well, I agree the NFL testing is probably good, but how do we know the NFL testing is "excellent"? I feel that positive steroid tests are like finding a roach. You may squash that roach, but you know there are about 100 more you didn't find yet...


Side note: The irony is that "Cushing disease" in medicine results from excess steroids in the body.
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