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Old 05-17-2010, 02:48 PM   #31
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I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:41 PM   #32
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I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.
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Old 05-17-2010, 05:58 PM   #33
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I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.
Holliday is a decent player so I don't know why all the fuss about the signing. I know he is older, but his work history is decent for a non starter, and he is experienced with the 3-4, so it was a good signing. It also makes somewhat of a statement with AH that there is going to be real competition for the starting positions and he better get his ass in gear. I would love to see Holliday do very well in August and earn a roster spot over AH. Allen and Shanny are geniuses. THe only way to exorcise the demon of complacency with these guys is some true blue real ass competition. Our roster is filled with a bunch of bums to be honest and I think the FO knows that.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:01 PM   #34
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I think it's better to say it was filled with a bunch of bums. We dropped 10 of 'em off the bat, and now it's probably 50/50, but I'm hoping that the 50 that are bums get their butts in gear now.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:05 PM   #35
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Billie Holliday the famous female Jazz singer.
Appreciate the tip.....I knew that...I was just jerkin' FD's chain
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:13 PM   #36
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donvan mcnabb, trent williams, and phillip buchannon off the top of my head. then there are a ton of non-moves that i loved. i just dont see how picking up half a dozen mediocre dlinemen is something to get excited about.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:21 PM   #37
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Not to mention competition - something we have been lacking. The way to find the diamonds in the rough, or those whose play may have been lacking in the past, is to try to stir up their competitive nature, and see if any shine through. If not, you have lost very little, but the chance of gaining one, two, or even three gems is worth the risk.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:02 PM   #38
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I honestly don't know what sort of age decline Holliday has been in the last few seasons, but I think he's had one of the most overlooked, quiet, solid careers in recent memory. His name doesn't come up much when you talk about great defensive linemen in the NFL, but he's been one of the best DL of the decade.

I liken him to Darren Sharper, you know, before he got all that media attention last year.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:03 PM   #39
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And to get a job, all he has to do is beat out Greg Peterson for the final DL roster spot. Somehow, I don't think he'll be deined.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:10 PM   #40
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So why don't the skins just consider trading Haynesworth and Andre Carter to the saints for Jammal Brown?
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:21 PM   #41
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Where's Beems? This is his guy
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:21 PM   #42
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Are people sold on these stupid speculations about Haynesworth that they think that any camp scrub or aging veteran is here to replace a dominant d-lineman like Haynesworth? My God, is not like we signed Haloti Ngata.

Haynesworth is not going to be traded period, the faster that people get this, the quicker we can stop posting these wishful trade scenarios. If Shanahan were truly in a rebuilding mode, then yes, a trade for 2011 picks would make sense, but he's not.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:49 PM   #43
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So why don't the skins just consider trading Haynesworth and Andre Carter to the saints for Jammal Brown?
Solves a need while creating a need, and we're getting killed on the value side of that trade since Carter and Haynesworth are both individually better players than Brown. However, if Brown was going to be the RT of the future, and Carter and Haynesworth weren't going to be here past 2010, I might do it anyway, and just be worse on D for a year.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:31 AM   #44
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Re: Redskins Sign Vonnie Holliday

Who is next? Courtney Brown?

Can we stop signing DLineman who aren't going to make the team already...

Have we cut Renaldo Wynn yet? (who never should have been on the roster over Dixon...)
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:58 AM   #45
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Actually, I'm glad we're bringing in linemen that have 3-4 experience. I would have liked to see a 3-4 LB signed.
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