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Old 05-20-2010, 01:55 PM   #136
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What would they base their suspensionon?

Certainly if Santana's admission in Sept '09 was videotaped I could see the NFL suspending him.

If Santana signed a written statement admitting to it, I could see a suspension.

Unless the NFL is granted access to the prosecutors file which contains direct incriminating evidence or admissions on santana's part , I dont see how the NFL can take action right now. Although, Im sure they will after taking the necessary steps to gather evidence to support their position to suspend him and reduce his ability to earn a living.

So far, its reports and articles that santana admitted it. I think the NFL needs Santana to admit it or have trustworthy and reliable documentation evidencing that he admitted it.
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Old 05-20-2010, 02:12 PM   #137
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I definitely think it's a tad premature to assume anything at this point.
I think Moss being cut or TO being signed is premature, but I've got to think a suspension is coming Santana's way. He doesn't need to test positive to be suspended.
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Old 05-20-2010, 02:14 PM   #138
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I think Moss being cut or TO being signed is premature, but I've got to think a suspension is coming Santana's way. He doesn't need to test positive to be suspended.
Yeah but they would at least need some solid proof or an admission on his part.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:08 PM   #139
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I don't know for sure. Just know that Santana is one guy I've heard rumors about for a long time from credible folk.
I'll be damned. Great stuff, but I was kind of hoping you were wrong thinking I would rather have it be one of our UDFA.

Context: Keep in mind this quote was posted before Sanatana's name was actually linked publicly to the doctor.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:10 PM   #140
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I think it would all depend on how they run the test. All they have right now is a doctor coming into the USA with HGH and claiming he was going to visit Santana. It being a Federal investigation then I can see them requesting Santana to have to take whatever test needed to see if it's in is body. Now the big question is how long does it stay in the body for testing purposes and when was his last visit. Then there is also the issue that even though it might be out of his system, it might show up in a hair follicle test.

I think it boils down to how far the Feds want to go with it. Besides simply charging the Doctor for bringing it into the country.
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:15 PM   #141
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You mean like this
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:07 PM   #142
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You mean like this
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:45 PM   #143
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If the Redskins really feel they need another WR, I'd take a long look at Lance Moore. Personally, even without Moss I'd rather stick with what we have.

I don't expect Moss to get suspended this year. I think this will be a long drawn out process.

I also don't think Moss will be the only Redskin name to emerge if more names are released
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If the Redskins really feel they need another WR, I'd take a long look at Lance Moore. Personally, even without Moss I'd rather stick with what we have.

I don't expect Moss to get suspended this year. I think this will be a long drawn out process.

I also don't think Moss will be the only Redskin name to emerge if more names are released
Yep, I agree. As long as Santana keeps quiet about this, we'll be well into the season before the sh*t really hits the fan on this one.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:00 PM   #145
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Would the league really suspend 20+ guys league-wide simultaneously if there ends up being a big list of patients from the NFL with this doc? Doubtful, especially considering there is no test for HGH for the NFL to use, it may be tough to enforce.

The doctor has more to fear than the players.
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Yep, I agree. As long as Santana keeps quiet about this, we'll be well into the season before the sh*t really hits the fan on this one.
Yeah I agree if he keeps quiet. The only problem would be is if the Feds call him in for questioning under oath. He definitely does not want to lie to them. I would also hope the Feds don't involve the NFL Commissioner until after they are completely done.

But I don't think its a detriment if he is told to sit a few games. Maybe it will give other WR's a chance to step up and show their worth even though all they have to do is wait until mid season when Moss gets another pulled hammy or groin muscle.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:21 PM   #147
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Even if it all does blow up fast and he gets the 4 games off...

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Not too bad...he's back before tougher games like Indy.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:25 PM   #148
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Yeah I agree if he keeps quiet. The only problem would be is if the Feds call him in for questioning under oath. He definitely does not want to lie to them. I would also hope the Feds don't involve the NFL Commissioner until after they are completely done.

But I don't think its a detriment if he is told to sit a few games. Maybe it will give other WR's a chance to step up and show their worth even though all they have to do is wait until mid season when Moss gets another pulled hammy or groin muscle.
Him telling the Feds the truth and having a presser 20 minutes later are two different things. I'm sure he's all lawyered up by now, so he should be aware of what he can and should be talking to them about if they, per chance, knock on his door.

In opinion this appears to be a case of a guy trying to get back on the field and not one trying to get a competitive edge.
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All it takes is one of those guys to talk & it makes that list valid. IMO.
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Would the league really suspend 20+ guys league-wide simultaneously if there ends up being a big list of patients from the NFL with this doc? Doubtful, especially considering there is no test for HGH for the NFL to use, it may be tough to enforce.

The doctor has more to fear than the players.
why? if anything i would think goodell would jump at the opportunity to set an example. that is if there is the evidence they are saying there is
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