Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell

irish · 05-29-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JLee9718

Hey, I think a lot of players, and coaches, should be paying money back to the owners if they didn't at least try their best on the field. Even Coach Gibbs should have given Danny some of his salary back because he left (both times) when he saw the talent level drying up. Vinny Cerrato should have given all his money back! Ditto for Zorn.

How do you know those guys werent trying their best? I suspect they were even though they didnt get the results wanted.

SBXVII · 05-29-2010, 08:42 PM

What I love most is the owner believes in contracts when it benifits him but chooses to over look it when it doesn't.

I can see Davis now "hey the contract says you'd work for 6 yrs at 1 mill a yr, I don't care if you think you deserve more."

or "hey we paid you a ton of money and got little reward, I don't care what the contract says you didn't earn it."

sportscurmudgeon · 05-31-2010, 01:26 PM

Here's hoping that a scenario directly parallel to this one in Oakland does not play itself out in Washington with Albert Haynesworth as the central figure...

Some of the elements are in place:

1. Lots of money paid up front as guaranteed $$$ to player.

2. Player seems not overly dedicated to physical fitness/weight control.

3. First year results less than stellar...

saden1 · 05-31-2010, 02:05 PM

Al Davis done lost his f'ing mind a long time. Nothing he Raiders do surprises me...if he said I'm moving the Raiders to the Philippines tomorrow I wouldn't be shocked.

Everyone knew he was over paying for mediocre talent and I remember a story about one of the coach discouraging him from drafting Russell. Pay the man, and cut you losses Al, lord knows you ain't never gonna win in court.

CRedskinsRule · 06-01-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Here's hoping that a scenario directly parallel to this one in Oakland does not play itself out in Washington with Albert Haynesworth as the central figure...

Some of the elements are in place:

1. Lots of money paid up front as guaranteed $$$ to player.

2. Player seems not overly dedicated to physical fitness/weight control.

3. First year results less than stellar...

Not gonna start a rehash of a billion AH threads, but #3 seems ridiculous. Saying Jamarcus Russell's results were "less than stellar" is way overselling what he "accomplished". And with AH, we got exactly what realistic people expected, a few injury games. but also a force in the middle when he played. If someone expected more, than they were looking at a crazy contract and putting crazy expectations on, not what this guy could legitimately bring to the team and set expectations appropriately.

Monkeydad · 06-01-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Honestly WHO Gives a DAMN?

SmootSmack. He started the thread.

skinsfan69 · 06-01-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Don't the raiders try to get their money back from everyone?

I was thinking the same thing. WTF is their deal? They don't want to pay coaches and now this?? They just seem bitter about paying the guy cause he flat out sucks.

SBXVII · 06-01-2010, 02:00 PM

I personally don't see why the team should get it since they signed a contract, Big Al should have to abide by the contract also. However it would be sweet for the courts or NFL to force Russell to give back the money then force Big Al to give the money to all the fans who purchased Sun. ticket because for several yrs now he's been ripping them off giving them a lousy team on the field. The fans should be reimbursed.

tootergray34 · 06-01-2010, 09:42 PM

the only thing I feel they should change about this structure is the rookie salaries...other than that perhaps some people just need to evaluate talent and work ethic better. agree?

Dirtbag59 · 07-05-2010, 07:34 PM

Loloolllolollllolllolololo Purple Drank!
JaMarcus Russell arrested for possession of codeine syrup - ESPN

hooskins · 07-05-2010, 08:14 PM

This guy is an idiot. But yes, purple drank is a problem which is only popularized by rappers.

Lil Wayne, for example, doesnt drink alcohol because he thinks its bad but regularly drinks codeine based drinks. Stuff is so strong you have to have several cups in ones when drinking. It burns through them.

Hog1 · 07-05-2010, 08:18 PM

HELL YAH....I got to get me some of that!!

GMScud · 07-05-2010, 09:08 PM

Is there anyone more done than this guy?

djnemo65 · 07-05-2010, 09:41 PM

I have to admit to having always wanted to try sizzurp. I guess I'm just running with the wrong crowd for that though.

Dirtbag59 · 07-05-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

No wonder the dude can't break down an NFL defense!

He probably saw like 37 cornerbacks on every play and was wishing there was a couch in the backfield so he could chill out after every seven step drop.

Classic.

05-29-2010, 08:42 PM	#47
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell What I love most is the owner believes in contracts when it benifits him but chooses to over look it when it doesn't. I can see Davis now "hey the contract says you'd work for 6 yrs at 1 mill a yr, I don't care if you think you deserve more." or "hey we paid you a ton of money and got little reward, I don't care what the contract says you didn't earn it."

05-31-2010, 01:26 PM	#48
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell Here's hoping that a scenario directly parallel to this one in Oakland does not play itself out in Washington with Albert Haynesworth as the central figure... Some of the elements are in place: 1. Lots of money paid up front as guaranteed $$$ to player. 2. Player seems not overly dedicated to physical fitness/weight control. 3. First year results less than stellar... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

05-31-2010, 02:05 PM	#49
saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell Al Davis done lost his f'ing mind a long time. Nothing he Raiders do surprises me...if he said I'm moving the Raiders to the Philippines tomorrow I wouldn't be shocked. Everyone knew he was over paying for mediocre talent and I remember a story about one of the coach discouraging him from drafting Russell. Pay the man, and cut you losses Al, lord knows you ain't never gonna win in court. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

06-01-2010, 02:00 PM	#53
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell I personally don't see why the team should get it since they signed a contract, Big Al should have to abide by the contract also. However it would be sweet for the courts or NFL to force Russell to give back the money then force Big Al to give the money to all the fans who purchased Sun. ticket because for several yrs now he's been ripping them off giving them a lousy team on the field. The fans should be reimbursed.

06-01-2010, 09:42 PM	#54
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell the only thing I feel they should change about this structure is the rookie salaries...other than that perhaps some people just need to evaluate talent and work ethic better. agree? __________________ ---HAIL!!!---

07-05-2010, 07:34 PM	#55
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,958	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell Loloolllolollllolllolololo Purple Drank! JaMarcus Russell arrested for possession of codeine syrup - ESPN __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

07-05-2010, 08:14 PM	#56
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 25 Posts: 8,557	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell This guy is an idiot. But yes, purple drank is a problem which is only popularized by rappers. Lil Wayne, for example, doesnt drink alcohol because he thinks its bad but regularly drinks codeine based drinks. Stuff is so strong you have to have several cups in ones when drinking. It burns through them. __________________ Vacancy

07-05-2010, 08:18 PM	#57
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 8,378	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell HELL YAH....I got to get me some of that!! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... Win! Always win! By fair means or foul, by soft words and hard deeds... by treachery, by cunning, by malpractice... but always win--Edward Teach

07-05-2010, 09:08 PM	#58
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell Is there anyone more done than this guy? __________________ Insert witty signature here

07-05-2010, 09:41 PM	#59
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Location: MA Age: 32 Posts: 2,836	Re: Raiders Want Their Money Back from Russell I have to admit to having always wanted to try sizzurp. I guess I'm just running with the wrong crowd for that though.

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