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Old 06-16-2010, 12:46 PM   #151
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As of this morning, I still haven't heard that we are trying to move him. But I've been kind of busy with other stuff so I really haven't had a chance to focus on this much
ESPN radio said we had been but the team didn't like the offers. I think more to the point was the team looked into trading him around the draft time period and we were only offered like a 4th round pick and the team was not going to accept such a low offer.

Now with him being anal and the team being in a situation other teams will most likely offer less knowing we might be in a bind with AH. Which is why I'd keep him and fine him each day he doesn't show in attempts to try and recoup some of the money. Have him ride the bench for 2 or 3 games (I think Arrington said that was his worst time sitting there hearing the fans yelling at him in the back ground and not playing), then trade him for anything that the Rams will give for him or some other team that was a bad team last yr. In no uncertain terms would I trade him to a good team or a play off contender. Either he play for the Skins who might turn out to be better then expected or play for a rotten team.

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WOOOOOOOOW.

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With rain falling fast, the Redskins left the field after less than 30 minutes of practice on Wednesday. Following the abbreviated practice, several players addressed Albert Haynesworth's absence, and perhaps none was as outspoken as linebacker London Fletcher, who called Haynesworth "selfish" and said the highly-compensated defensive tackle "can't be depended upon."

Fletcher is the unquestioned leader of the unit, and when he speaks, it's usually worth listening to. He didn't hold anything back when discussing Haynesworth and the defensive tackle's decision to skip the mandatory minicamp.

"I agree with the assessment that Albert has made a very selfish decision. When you play a team sport, you have to look at it and think about everybody involved in the situation. This is not golf, tennis, things like that where it's an all-about-you sport. What he's decided to do is make a decision based all about him. It's no different than his attitude and his approach to last year's defense, about wanting everything to revolve around him and him making plays. And if it didn't benefit him, he wasn't really willing to do it."

Asked if the locker room could embrace Haynesworth should he return, Fletcher said:

"Obviously, he's under contract with the Washington Redskins. From a business standpoint, I don't see them giving him $32 million and trading him or giving him away. He has the option to give the money back if he really doesn't want to be here. He could always give the money back. But once he decided to take money from this organization, he's a Washington Redskin. I say, yeah, he can come back if he shows he's willing to buy into what we're doing, if he's going to be on- board with what we're trying to do. One man is not going to stop what we're trying to accomplish this year. One man is not going to stop what we're going to accomplish this year. We've got big goals set for us this year, high aspirations. Football is going to be played with him or without him. We're going to play some good football.

Obviously, we want him to be a part of it, but he has to stop being selfish."

Fletcher said he wasn't surprised by Haynesworth's decision, given his past actions and attitudes.

"He can say what he wants to say about him not wanting to be here, wanting to be traded, things like that. There's ways he can not be a Redskin. Give the money back; I'm sure they'd take it. We'll move on without him. I want teammates who I can depend on, who I can count on, who in the fourth quarter of a situation, I know is going to be there to make a play or to do his job that the defense calls -- whether it's responsibilities holding up a lineman or penetrating a gap... I need guys I can depend on. We need people we can depend on. At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."
A while back I said this guy isn't a good teammate and now we see why. When a stand up quality guy like Fletch calls you out then you know it's bad. It's all about him and we now see that he is just not someone that we can count on. I'd honestly let his fat sloppy bacon grease ass rot on the bench.
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First of all I feel vindicated for being an "Albert Hater"

Fat Albert can rot at home and watch the games on TV. The Skins don't need his BS. If the most unselfish player on the team says he is selfish, that is all I need to hear.

Unless he returns 100% of his salary for this year I say they fine him for every missed practice, and force him to decide if he wants to sit out the whole season.

Eventually he will show up and be a problem, and then they can give him the Keyshawn treatment for the last half of the year. If there is a lock out then Fatty will have successfully ruined his career, and be starting at a lock out.
I for one thought he would come in shape and ready to take on whatever roll he needed to play.

You can say "I told you so" any time now.

All I can say is for the 30+ mill he took we fans should be able to get something out of it.... like watching him sitting misserably on the bench for a few games and allowing the fans to ridicule him from the stands. I'd also freeze his contract. When he decids to play a yr from now he can show up at camp until he fulfills his contract or pays it back.
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FAT AL your a 100% POS!

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Shanahan 'Very Disappointed' With Haynesworth's Absence
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Head coach Mike Shanahan said on Wednesday he was disappointed that defensive lineman Albert Haynesworth has opted not to attend this week's mandatory mini-camp.

Shanahan addressed Haynesworth's absence in a post-practice media session on Wednesday.

"When I first talked with Albert back in February, and got a good feel on how he felt, and sat down and talked with his agent, we let Albert know at that time that we would give him until April 1 to go to any team he wanted in the National Football League," Shanahan said. "So if he wasn't pleased about playing nose tackle or any other position we had planned for him, that we would let him take a look at any team he wanted to go to.

"But on April 1, when we owed him a check for $21 million dollars, we said if you take that check, we do expect you to be the best defensive end, the best nose tackle--if we play you at free safety, we expect you to be the best free safety, even though he'd have to lose a little weight. Whatever position we play him at, that he would have to do the best job he possibly could and make the commitment to be the best football player.

"Obviously he took the check. So I was surprised he wasn't here [at mini-camp], because I thought he did make that commitment once he took that check, that he wanted to be a Washington Redskin and he wanted to do the best thing for the Washington Redskins to help our defense and help our team win. Obviously it didn't go in that direction. So we're quite disappointed."
Amazing detail of what has transpired, and I think we all can agree that MS/BA handled it right (if his words are to be believed). It also shows how we would be listening, without being actively shopping, much like they told JC if you find a place great, we will send you there, but we are in control. I loved this whole statement by Shanahan!!
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:57 PM   #155
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That saying would apply if Reid and JLC were just making stuff up and one of their fabricated stories just happened to be true. However, it doesnt jive with reality. Reality is that JLC had actual SOURCES telling him Haynesworth was unhappy and wanted to be traded. Now, the majority here chose to stick their head in the sand and foolishly pretend that these were just rumors and the sources were crap. They foolishly chose to believe what Haynesworth, whose teammates refer to him as an "actor," said instead - even though anyone with any sense at all recognized that Haynesworth would be saying the exact same things whether or not he wanted to be traded or not. Hopefully, in the future, people will learn from this and not discredit JLC simply because they don't like what he has to say.
Haynesworth's unhappiness was never in dispute.

The 'facts' around the case, i.e. the Redskins actively trying to trade him during the draft was what had been completely fabricated.

He also wasn't an "active" malcontent, and probably still isn't. Haynesworth wasn't taking his case to the media...the media was taking their case to Haynesworth. We shouldn't lose sight of how this all unfolded.

Now: his agent has requested a trade -- one that he's not going to get -- in order to speed of the process of getting Haynesworth out of here. I don't like it at all, but it's hardly a code red situation. It's just a selfish, dick move considering the financial circumstances. It's a slap in Snyder's face more than it's intended target, which is Shanahan.
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London Fletcher is the Man. Shanny is the Man. I am so happy to see real acountability @ Redskins Park
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ESPN radio said we had been but the team didn't like the offers. I think more to the point was the team looked into trading him around the draft time period and we were only offered like a 4th round pick and the team was not going to accept such a low offer.

Now with him being anal and the team being in a situation other teams will most likely offer less knowing we might be in a bind with AH. Which is why I'd keep him and fine him each day he doesn't show in attempts to try and recoup some of the money. Have him ride the bench for 2 or 3 games (I think Arrington said that was his worst time sitting there hearing the fans yelling at him in the back ground and not playing), then trade him for anything that the Rams will give for him or some other team that was a bad team last yr. In no uncertain terms would I trade him to a good team or a play off contender. Either he play for the Skins who might turn out to be better then expected or play for a rotten team.

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Buffalo (this might be good. cold, miserable, but paid). lol.
Trades to the Vikings or Titans came close to happening but it was more about listening to offers than us reaching out to them.

The only time we truly actively tried to trade him was in discussions for McNabb. And for a split second when talking with the Saints
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I really wish no team would pick him up, but unfortunately some team always is willing to take on a case-head like this. That's why these pricks keep re-appearing over and over again.
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what a pile of shit dude. should be in jail anyways after putting that kid in a wheelchair. hope he burns for this in the public as he should.

he raped the redskins of money like big ben rapes ... well ... chicks.
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Report: Haynesworth Will Be At Mini Camp To Avoid Fine - SB Nation DC

Nothing like a fat-ass malcontent on the field. Bury the SOB on the bench unless he returns his signing bonus. As a matter of fact, I put him on the PUP list or whatever so he's not in the locker room or near the team. If he returns the SB or a large portion of it, trade him to a $hit team for whatever you can get for him. He was a FA, we didn't give any picks/players up to get him.

I guess the "bitter girlfriends" had a point. This guy will be a MAJOR locker room cancer.
And now that Fletcher and Co have called him out big time to the media, it's going to be even harder for him to come back into the locker room. I read yesterday that one player flat out called him an "asshole."

Considering Shanahan's history is dealing with players with AH's kind of attitude, I'd be surprised if that fat selfish D-bag is a Redskin this year. At this point the negatives outweigh the positives.

He's not a hard worker, he doesn't care about being in shape, he's a bad teammate, he's selfish, and he's a big puss. One play he's writhing around on the ground like he just got shot, then he stumbles off the field, sucks wind for a while on the sideline, and then comes back in like nothing happened. Then rinse and repeat. I really, really, really dislike him. He can just go away.
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This from ExtremeSkins via NFLDraftBible.

via NFLDraftBible twitter - JLC of NFLN reports Bucs & Lions interested in AH - EXTREMESKINS.com


Edit. sorry old news but they were interested maybe they still might be.
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You can say "I told you so" any time now.
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Now: his agent has requested a trade -- one that he's not going to get -- in order to speed of the process of getting Haynesworth out of here. I don't like it at all, but it's hardly a code red situation. It's just a selfish, dick move considering the financial circumstances. It's a slap in Snyder's face more than it's intended target, which is Shanahan.
It's a code red when a team captain and leader of the defense says this publicly regarding AH: "At the end of the day, right now, he's shown that he can't be depended upon."

Will the rest of the team play with him if they have to, of course. Will the team chemistry be a big problem, of course. If AH comes back because of money, how can any of his teammates know he's giving his best effort? A good team can't have players questioning each other's level of effort.

This SOB got a 8 figure check, STFU and get on the field and play. If he wants out, give back the money and get the F out of dodge.
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That saying would apply if Reid and JLC were just making stuff up and one of their fabricated stories just happened to be true. However, it doesnt jive with reality. Reality is that JLC had actual SOURCES telling him Haynesworth was unhappy and wanted to be traded. Now, the majority here chose to stick their head in the sand and foolishly pretend that these were just rumors and the sources were crap. They foolishly chose to believe what Haynesworth, whose teammates refer to him as an "actor," said instead - even though anyone with any sense at all recognized that Haynesworth would be saying the exact same things whether or not he wanted to be traded or not. Hopefully, in the future, people will learn from this and not discredit JLC simply because they don't like what he has to say.
Everybody new AH was disgruntled that was no secret. The "rumours" were that the 'Skins were actively attempting to trade AH. JLC consistently indicated that the front office was attempting to trade Haynesworth. In light of Shanny's statements, JLC was either simply wrong or making intentionally deceptive reports. I find Shanny's statements credible as they seem consistent with his personality and with the FO's attempt to reign in attempts by players to run the team.

JLC's multiple reports that the Skins were trying to trade AH were clearly coming from team reports that AH's agent had contacted the teams. Unable to verify from the source, JLC simply created the "fact" that the Skins were seeking a trade.

Your consistent beef was that the front office mishandled things b/c they let everybody know they wanted to trade AH. Apparently, not so much.

JLC is a rumour mongering little nudge w/ an ax to grind against Snyder. Regardless of his sources, when it comes to the Skins, he is going to spin it his way - damn the facts.
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Haynesworth Wants Trade, Won't Attend Minicamp - ESPN Video - ESPN

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according to Schefter (10:00 AM today). AH is making a major mistake.

By not reporting to camp today, he puts at risk not only the $9M in guaranteed money for the future, BUT also it could open the door for the Skins to go after about $25M in monies ALREADY PAID.

Pretty bad miscalculation on the part of AH and his agent.
Edit: People are getting so confused about all this.

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Until he misses training camp, the 'skins can only fine him day by day. And even missing training camp the Redskins have limited options (in part because the bonuses were converted from signing bonuses), it's not until he misses games that they can really go after the money.
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