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Old 06-16-2010, 03:47 PM   #211
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Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

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It was Phillip Daniels, or so I've heard. But for all I know it could have been Fletcher himself
that wouldn't surprise me either

he's had some interesting facebook updates since the start of the offseason programs.. stuff like "If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem" and whatnot
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:49 PM   #212
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you know who DOES want to be here

Darnell Dockett

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Dockett isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I don't know how I'd feel about signing him, however I do imagine that he would command Dansby type money on the open market so I doubt we would go after him. Besides in a 3-4, even without Haynesworth we have a pretty damn good line. I'd be a little worried if we were playing a 4-3 but with a 3-4 we have guys that are in a position to succeed.
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It was Phillip Daniels, or so I've heard. But for all I know it could have been Fletcher himself
I'm thinking it was Daniels.
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"The bottom line is that, during negotiations, the Redskins made promises to Haynesworth that they are not keeping. It's hard to blame the team when a guy who is making a hundred million a year is skipping training camp, but if the Redskins made verbal promises to Albert and they're not keeping those promises, well then they have to sleep in the bed they made."


This makes zero sense to me. You get paid to play, not to bitch about what a team is doing schematically. If I go into a position and then a new manager comes in and switches things around, i have to deal with it. If I said I didn't like the way they are doing things, so I am not coming to work do you think I would still be employed? Hell no. The guy was just paid $32 million for 1 season, and basically renegged on his deal about taking the $20million check. He knew when he took that check that he was going to be on the hook for playing in what ever scheme they threw out there. I hope Shanny and Allen stand up to his fat ass and say "hey, you want to stay home, that is ok we'll fine you... and if you show up and cause problems then we'll suspend you with no pay." Its your call. Sure he can show up and play half ass and get benched, but who is that hurting more, him or the Redskins...HIM.. He wont be able to get moved or traded if he plays horrible. I really hope this jackass gives the $20 million back, then we can take what ever for him and get rid of him. If not, then I would just put his fatass on the bench for spite.
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Dockett isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I don't know how I'd feel about signing him, however I do imagine that he would command Dansby type money on the open market so I doubt we would go after him. Besides in a 3-4, even without Haynesworth we have a pretty damn good line. I'd be a little worried if we were playing a 4-3 but with a 3-4 we have guys that are in a position to succeed.
I agree
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I agree
Actually now I've had a change of heart on Dansby. Based on this chat session he seems like a pretty good guy. Though at the same time I stick to my statement that we wouldn't have the money or desire to go after him.
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Actually now I've had a change of heart on Dansby. Based on this chat session he seems like a pretty good guy. Though at the same time I stick to my statement that we wouldn't have the money or desire to go after him.
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You mean Dockett right?

It's funny reading his twitter because he doesn't hold back at all, kind of vulgar

then he's like Oh come check out my free youth football camp haha
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These are the teams running a 4-3 this year. Giants, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks, Rams, Bengals, Lions, Vikings, Texans, Colts, Jaguars, Titans, Falcons, Panthers, Saints, Bucs.

If he is to be traded this what he is looking at. As long as he isnt traded in the division its fine with me. He needs to buy his way out first. If not, give him a Gatorade bucket to sit on cuz he doesnt deserve to sit with the rest of the players.
I still think I'd hold on to him for as long as possible simply to either recoup the money spent or make him miserable. After that I'd look into trading him to

Rams
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I would put serious thought into the Eagles only to try and get back our 2nd round pick next yr.
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Yea right....F*ck you Fat Al! You POS!

Report: Haynesworth will show up for training camp
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Despite his absence from a mandatory minicamp, recalcitrant Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth reportedly will show up for training camp when it opens on July 29.

If, of course, he's still on the team.

The report comes from Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan, who cites an unnamed NFL source.

But Haynesworth won't be showing up because he's finally seen the light. Instead, Russell reports that Haynesworth hopes to avoid potential litigation with the team, which would have a better argument when it comes to trying to get money back from the player if he doesn't show up for training camp.

As we've separately heard, Haynesworth's advisers believe that his only consequence for failing to show up for the mandatory minicamp is a fine in the neighborhood of $10,000.

So if/when he shows up, he may be acting like another player from another NFC East team five years ago.

We can only hope that Haynesworth won't eventually be doing shirtless sit-ups in his driveway.
Umm,

#1- T.O didn't refuse to show up, Reid told him to stay home as punishment.
#2- It's my understanding AH can be fined $10,000 for each day he doesn't show up. Although $30,000 is chump change for not showing up at the 3 day mandatory camp when he was just given 21 mill April 1st.

Why do people always try to lump T.O. into every bad apple category? I think people have well over stated T.O.'s being a cancer issue.
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Damn, where have I heard this before?............

Oh yea it was when he said he would only show up for mandatory camps. lol.
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:29 PM   #221
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I am very disappointed in AH; he just is not making good decisions.

He does not understand the concept of being a member of a TEAM. He is either getting bad advice from his agent or he is not very bright. He obviously over values his worth. He is not a man of strong moral character.

I am disappointed that he does not care for this Organization, its great members, and its very proud history in a manner that most fans here at the WP most certainly do.

AH remarks remind me of the immature character in the movie PRIVATE BENJAMIN ... I remember a scene where she is walking off punishment duty in the rain and complains that this is not the Army she signed up for ... the recruiter broke promises made to her.

Fletcher's comments are right on the mark. It will be interesting to see how management deals with this situation ... it will send a message to the rest of the team.
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Re: WP: Haynesworth will skip minicamp, wants trade

Anyone catch this gem of a blog?

INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell: Under the Cap: The Redskins Finally Leverage the Uncapped Year

Basically, BA converted the Option Bonus to a Signing Bonus earlier this year (presumably to avoid future cap charges for Big Al). In doing so, the $21M now becomes available for forfeiture if Haynesworth defaults on his contract, whereas it was untouchable as an option bonus.

Al's agent now looks like a moron if their plan was to hold out all along. Seems pretty clear that if Haynesworth doesn't show, or gets himself suspended, he will forfeit all or much of the $21M.

This makes me feel more confident that Allen and Shanny foresaw this issue and planned for its contingency. These guys look smarter every day.
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:53 PM   #223
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Who really gives two shits about BO (Ya think Reid had good reason to tell him to stay home!), it was more about Fat POS Al exclude the last two sentences. And by the way he's been in the "bad apple category" everywhere he's been like FAT BOY well because he's been a F*ckin bad apple that happens to be unemployed for a reason.


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Umm,

#1- T.O didn't refuse to show up, Reid told him to stay home as punishment.
#2- It's my understanding AH can be fined $10,000 for each day he doesn't show up. Although $30,000 is chump change for not showing up at the 3 day mandatory camp when he was just given 21 mill April 1st.

Why do people always try to lump T.O. into every bad apple category? I think people have well over stated T.O.'s being a cancer issue.
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^^ Are you sure that's true? It says it's a signing bonus that's not prorated b/c its voidable at the players option. If it's not prorated, I don't think the club can reclaim a portion of it.
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I still think I'd hold on to him for as long as possible simply to either recoup the money spent or make him miserable. After that I'd look into trading him to

Rams
Lions
Jaguars
Raiders
Bucs

I would put serious thought into the Eagles only to try and get back our 2nd round pick next yr.
I agree with except the eagle trade there is no way i want to see this monster twice a year. Granted he is POS but he can cause some major damage giving the chance.
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