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Old 06-15-2010, 11:55 PM   #76
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I was a supporter of AH until today. This dude is a Lying, ugly, poor exscuse for a human being. I hope the Redskins don't trade him and let his ass sit all year, then if he still feels the same way sit out until the contract is up.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:58 PM   #77
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Our D is going to take a MAJOR hit losing this bastard. We shouldnt have even been switching to this stupid ass defense anyway. We shouldve at least waited till next year. I know this sounds dum, Im just f-ckin pissed right now.
Well, I hate to agree with this post.... and I'm definitely in no way, shape or form defending Hayensworth, because he can go jump in a lake as far as I'm concerned right now.... but I think there is something to this point as well. One of the things that has really bothered me about the Skins' over the last decade or so, is our inability to adapt to the players that we have. Now, I totally understand that Shanny and Haslett didn't really get to choose these players, so I'm not blaming them either...but when I look at the players we have defensively, I think we'd have a heck of a team playing a 4-3, and I think we have many more question marks with a 3-4. I really hope to see the Redskins over the next couple years, taking advantage of some of the players they have and designing plays and schemes to their strengths. I mean that overall both offensively and defensively, not specifically just looking at fat Albert.
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And for all the people who said him missing voluntary workouts was no big deal.... This guy is a gigantic pile of shit. And he got $32M from us for playing in 12 games. This is irreconcileable at this point. Even if he is a Redskin this year, he'll be a fat, lazy, half-assed player. By that I mean he'll be himself.

And what really sucks is we're not gonna get any value for him.
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i thought reid and JLC were just making all those rumors up. i guess all those reports were true after all...
Those were blind guesses. This is a descision made recently by the Haynesworth camp. I've heard: within the last 48 hours. It might not be THAT recent, but certainly, not before the draft. That's just not accurate.

If anything, we have two enabling parties in what is now actually a story:
  1. the media, the Washington Post in particular, who created such a sustained negative backlash around Haynesworth that there's diminishing negative returns here with the backlash for this (substantial) decision.
  2. the contract by Cerrato, which essentially (as I noted right when it was signed) traded any leverage the team had with the player to the player within 13 months of it being signed. It's nearly impossible to recoup a significant portion of the contract. We can get $4 million in pro-rated bonus money back, but -- aside from fines levied on him -- we can't touch the $20 million we payed out in March, nor can we touch the $1 million portion SB that was accrued and recognized on the books in 2009, nor his 2009 salary. That's something like $25 million that Haynesworth gets just for playing those 16 games.
He leaves another $17 million or so on the table in the next two years by not reporting at all this year, if he chooses to do so, and that's like half of his guaranteed money, so it's substantial. But $25 million for 16 games was made possible by the leverage Cerrato extended to get him (which was a risk known at the time, not necessarily a reasonable expectation of failure), was probably necessary to get him in the fold, and the media was already railing on him for essentially doing nothing wrong (which is fact), so it's really no skin off his back to not honor his contract if he doesn't feel like it.

Complete dick move by the Haynesworth camp, but the timing of the decision leads me to believe that level heads will, at some point, prevail.

The above is why you have his teammates going off on him now, and not before when he wasn't doing anything wrong, despite reports.
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Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2010 10:57 PM ET
Though they've yet to go on the record, at least two of Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth's teammates have begun the process of making their feelings known regarding Haynesworth's decision not to show up for a mandatory minicamp, which comes on the heels of an offseason of decisions by Haynesworth not to show up for work.

As one player told Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan in D.C., "[Haynesworth] loves money and not football. He is a great actor. Actors get paid a lot of money."

Another teammate was more concise, simply calling Haynesworth an "asshole."

We suspect that it'll only get more interesting once the players show up for the minicamp that opens tomorrow.
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To be clear: Haynesworth should be getting ripped for choosing to blatantly violate a good faith contract tomorrow. Nothing good is going to come of his absence. It's just that, with all the bandwidth and paper that has been wasted on Haynesworth prior to this move, the story is going to die nationally pretty quickly, and Haynesworth is going to be pretty numb to justified criticism.

Which essentially means that he's done as a Redskin, if not before this year, then after.
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While I have zero respect for AH as a person, my intuition is in the long run he "wins" this feud, because as a player (in the right situation) his dominance cannot be denied.

Basically Albert will sit across from some FO group w/ a team really looking to win, and he'll convince them he is committed to being the best 4-3 DT in football for several more years. He'll get another huge contract. Period.

Here's why the Redskins lose. First, we won't get shit for Albert now. He knows this. His agent knows this. They also know he's still gonna get paid (as above). Second, we lost our best defensive player, and behind him it's just a whole series of big fat ?s, starting w/ our coaching staff and working all the way down the defensive roster. Shanny has made some awful coaching/personnel decisions, and they seem to be heavy on the defensive side. Haslett has never coached a dominant defense. More importantly it doesn't look like he's ever improved a unit. And in the end, we're still a completely untested 3-4 defense. Our secondary situation is shaky and now our DL situation is shaky because our one true 3-4 NT is coming off one of the worst possible injuries in football.

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For now, the Redskins can fine him roughly $10,000 for skipping the minicamp. If he stays out when training camp rolls around, the number increases to more than $16,000 per day.

Albert Haynesworth proves his worthlessness | ProFootballTalk.com

Still chump change to this a-hole
I don't think that the people in the comment section realize that the front office has undergone a change. All this Haynesworth non-sense is just a fallout from the previous regime.
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While I have zero respect for AH as a person, my intuition is in the long run he "wins" this feud, because as a player (in the right situation) his dominance cannot be denied.

Basically Albert will sit across from some FO group w/ a team really looking to win, and he'll convince them he is committed to being the best 4-3 DT in football for several more years. He'll get another huge contract. Period.

Here's why the Redskins lose. First, we won't get shit for Albert now. He knows this. His agent knows this. They also know he's still gonna get paid (as above). Second, we lost our best defensive player, and behind him it's just a whole series of big fat ?s, starting w/ our coaching staff and working all the way down the defensive roster. Shanny has made some awful coaching/personnel decisions, and they seem to be heavy on the defensive side. Haslett has never coached a dominant defense. More importantly it doesn't look like he's ever improved a unit. And in the end, we're still a completely untested 3-4 defense. Our secondary situation is shaky and now our DL situation is shaky because our one true 3-4 NT is coming off one of the worst possible injuries in football.

Fail.

Totally Agree, this is all Haynesworths fault, but I absolutely HATED the idea of making this switch. LONG before I ever wondered whether our current defensive personnel would be ok with the switch. We didnt have the LBs. STILL dont have the LBs. Our defense just needed to be TWEAKED. Throw away the 20 yard cushion our DBs were giving up, be more agressive, disquise the blitzes better, add some LBs, and we were straight. Andre Carter was coming off a very good season, now we throw him back at LB. Like him or not, AH was a beast for us, from the very first snap I saw him play with us, our D-line was INSTANTLY better. Anyone remember how our D/L was before AH? Yeah, it f-ckin sucked.

Naw, we gotta come in and give the dam defense a complete face lift, knowing that this year we needed to focus on our God awful offense. Hasletts on my shit list, this defense better be dam good. Gonna be hard with Haynesworth out of the mix.
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I don't think that AH would've ever come here had he known how we'd use him even last year.
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Redskins teammates begin to tee off on Haynesworth
Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2010 10:57 PM ET
Though they've yet to go on the record, at least two of Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth's teammates have begun the process of making their feelings known regarding Haynesworth's decision not to show up for a mandatory minicamp, which comes on the heels of an offseason of decisions by Haynesworth not to show up for work.

As one player told Chris Russell of 106.7 The Fan in D.C., "[Haynesworth] loves money and not football. He is a great actor. Actors get paid a lot of money."

Another teammate was more concise, simply calling Haynesworth an "asshole."

We suspect that it'll only get more interesting once the players show up for the minicamp that opens tomorrow.
Exactly. I think back to that fat asshole's introductory presser where he so eloquently said all the right things. He's so full of it.

For the record, my custom user title has read "Albert Ain'tworth" for the better part of two months now. Ahem.
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Hilarious comment from the PFT article:

"They should take Albert Haynesworth and plug him into the hole spewing oil down in the gulf."

LOL. That would solve a few problems in Washington. Get him off the Redskins, and take some heat off of Obama and Co.
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Don't know how to link to it, but the Skins blog cartoon this week showed a AH half covered in oil, and the punchline, AH said "See I told you I don't like plugging holes"
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Don't know how to link to it, but the Skins blog cartoon this week showed a AH half covered in oil, and the punchline, AH said "See I told you I don't like plugging holes"
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I don't think that AH would've ever come here had he known how we'd use him even last year.

....yet he took the money he signed the contract.What if every player on the defense acted this way,maybe ,just maybe the coachs know more then he does.
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