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Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

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View Poll Results: Should the Redskins trade for Vincent Jackson?
Yes, but only if the price is right 103 74.64%
Yes, even if it means multiple high round picks 1 0.72%
No 34 24.64%
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:28 PM   #211
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Really? You do realize he's basically stepped back and handed over the reins to Allen and Shanahan don't you? And then when you look at the way the org has reached out to it's alumni, I would say the winds of change have blown through DC pretty significantly.

Matty, did things change when Obama became president? Did Obama stop the crazy spending and the stupid revenue draining wars? Not trying to be political, but that is the best analogy that I can come up with. To quote George Carlin, "Forget the politicians, they are just there to make believe you have a choice, you don't, you have owners, they own you." Change general manager/new coach for politicians and you could possibly have the same situation in good ole DC. Like I stated before, the only thing that has thus far changed has been that the FA moves are somewhat smarter, meaning no more $100 million dollar contracts or over the hill old farts way past their prime. Our draft other than our #1 pick was questionable. We wasted picks on an undersize WR and yet another TE that was not needed. Yeah folks like to throw McNabb in as part of our draft, but he was a FA acquisition that cost us picks. Bottom line for me is that the overall philosophy seems to be win now and not really trying to build up the franchise over the long haul, which is what it was before Allen/Shanny was brought on board. I mean wasn't the big change we expected from these two was a solid long term plan to build up a perennial winner other than go for the big name FAs all the time? I know it is going to take time for the new FO to right the wrongs that were done under Vinny, but coming out going heavy on free agency doesn't bode well for me. And as for Snyder stepping back after over a decade of trying to be a clone of Jerry Jones, don't count on that being the case or lasting too long. He still is the guy signing the checks and a man with his ego isn't just going to do a 180 anytime soon.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:39 PM   #212
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On the first statement you know Obama has only been in office for 18 months following the 8 year debacle of Bush. Rome wasn't built in a day man give it some time.
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On the first statement you know Obama has only been in office for 18 months following the 8 year debacle of Bush. Rome wasn't built in a day man give it some time.

Well said.
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:39 PM   #214
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Ok, I am not one of those who believes that we are doing things as we have in the past.

Hell if these guys can get this deal done and get another piece of our offense in place. I am all for it. Just don't want to mortgage our future draft picks is all.

BUT like I mentioned in an earlier post I do not like drafting WR in the draft. These guys seem to miss more than succeed.
What if (that's IF) we didn't draft a WR in Austin but a kick-butt kick returner?
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:08 PM   #215
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Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

Austin doesn't have to do much, seeing as the bar was set so low by ARE.

Thank goodness he is gone what a waste.
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Austin doesn't have to do much, seeing as the bar was set so low by ARE.

Thank goodness he is gone what a waste.
I admit when we signed ARE, I was pretty excited simply because he was a very good number 2 in Pittsburg and a solid returner. Then he came to Washington and had maybe 2-3 games with 100 yds receiving and only one good return game that I can remember.. ( colts game). Atleast Santana hasn't been a dissapointment since we traded for him.
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On the first statement you know Obama has only been in office for 18 months following the 8 year debacle of Bush. Rome wasn't built in a day man give it some time.
Plus Obama is my future boss, so from now on I'm going to have to defend him regardless of my political views.
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Old 07-03-2010, 02:08 AM   #218
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I admit when we signed ARE, I was pretty excited simply because he was a very good number 2 in Pittsburg and a solid returner. Then he came to Washington and had maybe 2-3 games with 100 yds receiving and only one good return game that I can remember.. ( colts game). Atleast Santana hasn't been a dissapointment since we traded for him.
Me to I couldn't wait to start seeing some reverses for TD's and then reality set in.
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Plus Obama is my future boss, so from now on I'm going to have to defend him regardless of my political views.
Whats your line of work?
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Re: Report: Redskins are pursuing Vincent Jackson

how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:24 AM   #222
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Gus, I think you used a terrible analogy. I think a GM and HC have a far greater chance of changing around a bad team quicker vs. a new President and a few new Congressmen. Not only is the President working with a far greater debt he has to satisfy other people to agree with him and vote in his policies. A new GM can hire whatever coach he wants, whatever coaching staff he wants, whatever scouting department he wants, and whatever players he thinks he needs with in reason. Yes the owner does write the checks so that is why I said within reason. But with someone like DS who is willing to spend.... Allen and Shanny have a far better chance of changing things at Redskins Park vs. Obama and Congress. Imagine if Allen had to run everything through a group of people who had to vote on whether anything he presented was a good course of action. The Skins would never change.

You would have better off using an anology of a business owner. He can fire all his employees and hire a whole new staff but the business will still continue to be crappy and not succeed if the owner does not change his goals or business plan. Otherwise he gets the same product out of different management and employees.
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Don't know yet, but it's likely going to end up being either accounting or budget analysis for the federal government. I'm in the process of applying for jobs. You can track my progress on this thread

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how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?
LOL No Joke...
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how the hell did this go from Jackson to Obama?
Agreed, leave the political talk to the parking lot threads.
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