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| | #16 |
| \m/ ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" I'm so done with last year. Bring on training camp! |
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| HST - "Hey Rube" ![]() Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Quote:
He is the ultimate when it came to "Player Speak".
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| | #18 |
| The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation
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| For those of you detracting Zorn as incompetent and only a QB coach be reminded who appointed him as a head coach. Snyder's meddling did appoint a highly inexperienced coach to make an ass of himself on national television. Head coach should be a selection performed by a capable GM and not someone as inept at competitive football as Dan Snyder. Like it or not, Zorn's huge shortcomings are directly reflected on Snyder's hands on meddling. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
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| | #19 |
| HST - "Hey Rube" ![]() Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Dan hired Zorn at the recomendation of Vinny Cerato. You can't put it all on Dan.
__________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/ |
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| HST - "Hey Rube" ![]() Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" It was a giant Cluster**##@ all the away around. excuse my language
__________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/ |
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| | #21 |
| The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 46
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Dan and Vinny were hoping to strike it lucky and pull an inexperienced assistant like Zorn and watch him develop into another Joe Gibbs. The difference is that Joe was brought in by Bobby and Jack. They kinda knew what they were doing.
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| The Bluths ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Quote:
So if you're going to blame Snyder for anything, blame him for giving complete control to Cerrato.
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| | #23 |
| The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Another thing that i'm surprised nobody has talked about was the fact that nobody in the organization would support Zorn's decisions. For example, it's been known that Zorn wanted to bench certain players, but he was told in no uncertain terms who he could play. We know he wanted to discipline portis for not practicing and refusing to workout and stuff, but Portis was always in Snyder's pocket so it never happened. The bottom line is that he really didn't have a chance here. Cerrato already appointed the roster and Zorn knew he could not make changes to it as he wanted. Very sad really, but that has been the state of this franchise for the past 11 years, hopefully it is now turned around.
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| | #24 | |
| Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Quote:
The problem since DS has the held the team have been twofold. Initially too much DS involvement. Then when Gibbs came along he scaled that back. Then when Gibbs left he gave everything to Vinny...and Vinny wasn't very good. End of story. Is it time for training camp yet? | |
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| | #25 |
| Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" ARE is a gadget play player they never should have signed, I'm glad he's gone. I still think Zorn could be successful with the right players. The biggest thing that went against Zorn is that he didnt have a functional QB and because of that he was really hamstrung with what he was trying to do. I think if Zorn had McNabb he'd have better results. |
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| The Bluths ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Quote:
Zorn probably shouldn't have been hired in the first place and given a job he likely didn't deserve, but don't blame him for accepting it. Still, let's not totally absolve him of any blame simply because he's a good guy.
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| | #27 |
| Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Zorn was horrible, ARE was horrible, Vinny was horrible. everybody had equal opportunity to do something. The problem is they were all overpaid and horrible at what they did. end of story.
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| | #28 |
| The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Im not absolving Zorn of blame totally. I really dont think that it was all his fault totally. It's just his general ineptitude coupled with the team problems as a whole doomed us. Anyway, i'm so over 2009.
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| | #29 |
| Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34
Posts: 4,065
| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" Who is this ARE fella? |
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| | #30 |
| Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 29
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| Re: ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance" In industry if somebody takes a position that's way above their head part of the problem lies with them. A larger part may lie with whomever hired him, but you need to respect the position that you're willing to accept. Zorn would have a hard time finding an OC job right now which honestly was a stretch with his initial hiring. He may be a fine QB coach if you attribute Charlie Batch and Matt Hasselbeck to him but there was nothing indicating that he was ready for the next step in my opinion. |
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