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Old 07-21-2010, 01:18 PM   #1
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Not too early to start talking up week one I guess, this from the Dallas Morning News:


Washington has assigned Morocco Brown, director of pro personnel, to scout the Dallas in Cowboys in every exhibition game. The clubs open the regular season at FedEx Field on Sept. 12.

Cowboys owner-general manager Jerry Jones has no problems with opponents scouting his team at every opportunity, including the open practices during Organized Team Activities and training camp. The Cowboys are among the more open teams in the overly paranoid NFL. Jones believes what the club gains in marketing more than offsets whatever information an opponent might gain from watching a pre-season workout.

Jones keeps in mind a conversation he had with veteran coaches Don Shula and Marty Schottenheimer after the Cowboys won the 1992 season Super Bowl. According to Jones, Shula and Schottenheimer said they knew the Cowboys' plan on every offensive play and ``we were never able to stop it.''
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Not too early to start talking up week one I guess, this from the Dallas Morning News:


Washington has assigned Morocco Brown, director of pro personnel, to scout the Dallas in Cowboys in every exhibition game. The clubs open the regular season at FedEx Field on Sept. 12.

Cowboys owner-general manager Jerry Jones has no problems with opponents scouting his team at every opportunity, including the open practices during Organized Team Activities and training camp. The Cowboys are among the more open teams in the overly paranoid NFL. Jones believes what the club gains in marketing more than offsets whatever information an opponent might gain from watching a pre-season workout.

Jones keeps in mind a conversation he had with veteran coaches Don Shula and Marty Schottenheimer after the Cowboys won the 1992 season Super Bowl. According to Jones, Shula and Schottenheimer said they knew the Cowboys' plan on every offensive play and ``we were never able to stop it.''
Statement #1 in bold: Putting marketing first. Fail.
Statement #2 in bold: Living in the past. Fail.
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This year's Cowboys are not the 1992 Cowboys. Vegas has us as a 4point underdog. I think that is fair since we haven't played a down yet, but I expect Shanahan to shock Wade's team in the first game. I'll go ahead and put an early prediction of 28-17 Skins win...(subject to change as preseason goes along)
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This year's Cowboys are not the 1992 Cowboys. Vegas has us as a 4point underdog. I think that is fair since we haven't played a down yet, but I expect Shanahan to shock Wade's team in the first game. I'll go ahead and put an early prediction of 28-17 Skins win...(subject to change as preseason goes along)
4 TD's first game. I LIKE IT!
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sand, whats your take on what the skins have added? your usually pretty reasonable
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sand, whats your take on what the skins have added? your usually pretty reasonable
That's laughable.

I expect jack to disappear after the Week 1 beating, only to show up with wild predictions right before Round 2 vs. Dallas.
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i was talking about his rationale, not his predictions
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Im in San An for business until Saturday. The Cowboys are practicing in town on Friday, so I could do some covert ops.

Actually I would prefer to be overt; I would push Romo into the Riverwalk if I saw him there.
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Im in San An for business until Saturday. The Cowboys are practicing in town on Friday, so I could do some covert ops.

Actually I would prefer to be overt; I would push Romo into the Riverwalk if I saw him there.

We will take a collection for you on TWP and bail you out. LOL
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Old 07-21-2010, 04:42 PM   #11
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That 92 cowpoke team had what might've been the greatest o line ever (sorry to say). Of course they had the triplets, but that o line was so dominant. Haven't seen one as dominant since.

That's why they couldn't be stopped. Today's dallas team is really good, but doesn't have nearly the talent of that team on the o line. If the Skins know what's coming, they'll be able to stop it.
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:06 PM   #12
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4 TD's first game. I LIKE IT!
I just saw this and my first thought was, "Have the recent years been so bad that a game in which we score 4 touchdowns is considered that great? "

I'll answer my rhetorical question. Yes. It's crazy to think of a 4 touchdown game on our end as wildly successful beyond our dreams, but after our offensive output last season that's pretty much what it would feel like.

I guess I'm just not that confident, especially considering we play horrible on national television.
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We will take a collection for you on TWP and bail you out. LOL
As long as he pushes him then runs away with out being seen. Romo will need to be bailed out because noone is allowed to jump in the river walk. So I say bump him in. and enjoy!
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sand, whats your take on what the skins have added? your usually pretty reasonable
Honestly and without biased....best additions:

Allen
Shannahan
Williams
Brown (?)

Much focus has been placed on all the 30-somethings that have been added, especially on offense.

McNabb? I really don't know. For starters there is no doubt the guy just plain knows how to win. But on the other hand, I just don't see why the Sheagles would trade him IN DIVISION, without being confident of something more.

Running backs. Shortest life spans in the NFL, those over 30 are widely considered over the hill and done for. And Washington has 3 of them. Albiet 3 proven players.

Not doubting the moves the front office has made. Point-in-fact, I just think thier hands were tied too much to do anything more. That being the previous leadership trading away future draft picks, did not leave Shanny and Allen a lot of ammo.

And the labor situation. All teams are very gun shy on signing proven veterans for fear of the unknown of what the new CBA will look like.

With that being said, with what they were provided, the front office did a good job.

My question is not about the offense, but the defense actually. A swtich to the 3-4 requires some resources to support it. To be specific, a bevy of big-fast linebackers and, DEPTH at the front 7.

Your typical 4-3 DE is accustomed to a 4 point stance and targeting the QB. Now you are asking this 4-3 DE to work from a stand-up position and recognize coverages. There will be a growing period.

And depth along the front 7 is key. Gotta have a solid rotation up front for that front 3 especially, rotating them to keep them fresh for the later quarters of the game.

It takes a few years to build up that stable of LB's to support the 3-4.

The moves this off season were good, and this team should be much improved from a year ago. But there are still plenty of question marks:

1. How will Williams perform in his rookie season? Will it be like Jake Long? Or Robert Gallery?

2. How will Brown look after coming off injury and losing his starting job in NO?

3. Whats gonna happen at NT?

4. Secondary?

Schedule is no push over either.

I think the 'Skins have will the potential to go 3-1 in September.
But there is also the potential of them going 1-3.
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A lot of good points brought up. I was going to say that if I remembered correctly Shanahan has had a really good record playing against Dallas in the past, not that it really means anything since he now has different players to have to coach up. I think with the Eagles he seemed 50/50 against them. He might have struggled against the Giants.

I often worried about other teams coming to our open dates and observing what the team was doing. I know it might not be the game plan that would be played against their teams but they can get a look at what the tendancies a certain player has, ie; WR's, RB's, or QB cadance. This will be even more of an issue since they will not have a lot of time to practice different snap counts.

Sandtrap, I think your assessment was fair. I too wondered why the Eagles would trade their star QB to another team in the division. Seems as thought they know something we don't.... is he washed up? do they know something about his past injuries we don't? or was Reid simply trying to help out a friend by sending him to a team he would be happy going to? Have the Skins done enough with the OL? As far as the LB's go, I feel Orakpo and Wilson being used as both LB's and DE's might actually help them. Fletcher I think will be solid in the middle, so the big question is how will Carter or whoever is playing the right side will do? I don't see a problem at the secondary, if anything I felt Dallas had more of an issue there. Then there was the NT position... if the Skins are smart and Kemo stays healthy I'd keep Kemo at NT and utilize AH at DE along with Daniels at the other DE position. That alone would be one heck of a DL. AH I don't think will be worth anything to spell Kemo since he's usually only good for about 2 to 3 downs. lol. Unless they plan to rotate Kemo and AH then when needing a heavy package using the one I suggested.

It seems teams always run in cycles. The Skins of the 80's, Dallas of the 90's, Giants of the 2000's. Who is going to take the next 10 yrs? Eagle fans will shout it's their turn but I don't think they will make it back. I don't know why I get that feeling but their window in the 2000's came and went, perhaps it's a Reid thing for me. I think that most teams know what the Giants bring to the table and will have counter measures, not to mention I think their defense will be lagging behind. I think the Skins will be an unknown.... but my gut tells me they will be better then last yr but will be like 9-7, give the Skins 2-3 yrs and they will be dominant again. That leaves Dalls, I always hate giving any type of positive news about them and would like to simply say.... Dallas sucks but I think they will lead the division. I think they will make the play offs due to having the best record but I see them on the decline also or it might simply be the Wade Phillips factor. He's an awsome coordinator but a horrid HC and play caller. I think he alone screws Dallas's chances but I wonder about Romo also. I might get blasted but I think he and Campbell both were not what they were expected to be for either team.... thankfully the Skins have moved on....when will Dallas?
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