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Old 08-03-2010, 11:02 PM   #46
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**** Final Update *****

Just got back from camp a little bit ago. The majority of the practice was on the far field so getting a good view of the team drills was difficult.

Here's what I've got to answer questions and then a few observations & thoughts:

Starting OL: LT - T. Williams, LG - Dock, C - Rabach, RG - Hicks, RT - J. Brown
2nd Unit: LT - W. Robinson, LG - E. Williams, C - Lichtensteiger, RG - Rinehart, RT - Heyer

Starting WRs: Moss & Galloway
RBs rotation is: CP, LJ, WP, then others

For the OL, I was able to get a good view of the OL/DL 1-on-1 pass rush period. I gave a +1 if the OL controlled the DL or pushed them past the pocket. I gave an = if the DL got a slight push, but the OL maintained position between the DL and QB. I gave a -1 if the OL was beaten and a -2 if they completely whiffed. Here's how each OL performed:
69 - J. Brown: +3 / -1
75 - Hicks: +2 / -2
61 - Rabach: +1 / -3 (1 whiff)
66 - Dock: +1
72 - T. Williams: +4
77 - Rinehart: +2 / 2=
78 - Lichtensteiger: +2 / 2= / -2 (1 whiff)
73 - W. Robinson: +2 / 1= / -1
68 - Oldenburg: +2 / 1= / -1
60 - Capers: 1= / -2
50 - E. Williams: +2 / 2= / -3
63 - Montgomery: +2 / 2= / -2

The DL who stood out in the period were: Darrion Scott with 4 "wins", Rob Jackson with 3, and Vonnie Holliday with 2. Several others had 1 win.

On the OL, I think we'll be good at T (barring injury) with TW, Brown, Heyer, Hicks. Our interior line will struggle in pass pro, but should be solid in the run game. I wouldn't be surprised if Lichtensteiger takes over at C before the year is over. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rinehart doesn't move into a starting role at RG. I think E. Williams versatility keeps him on the roster. I see Capers on the practice squad.

Trent Williams appears to have good quick feet and a strong base. I was a bit concerned over his low bench numbers when compared to Okung, but he's having no issue adjusting to the speed of the NFL and didn't get man-handled by anyone.

McCardell is involved with the WRs. He's quiet but does talk with them. He stayed with the young WRs while they got work with the machine after practice. He had on the arm pads for bump work off the line.
The position coaches all are working with their groups but are not vocal to where you can hear anything from the sidelines. I'm sure they're much more vocal in meetings and closed practices.

Special Teams: No news is good news. No competiton at P & K. Bidwell and Gano both looked fine, nothing that would send up any red flags. Both kicked well. Gano nailed a 56 yarder and then missed a second one right. Leg strength doesn't appear to be any issue.
Austin, Brandon Banks, and Buchanon were fielding punts. At one point Moss was too.

Defensive Starters today: LDE - Daniels, NT - Kemo, RDE - Holliday
LOLB - Alexander, LILB - Rocky, RILB - Fletch, ROLB - Orakpo
LCB - Hall, S - Moore, S - Landry, RCB - Rogers
2nd Unit: LDE - Carriker, NT- not 100% but I think Bryant, RDE - Golston,
LOLB - Carter, LILB - Blades, RILB - Riley, ROLB - unsure
LCB - K. Barnes, S - Doughty, S- Horton, RCB - Buchanon

The defense is bringing pressure and moving folks around. Opposing QBs won't pre-read us as easily as last year for sure.

I asked Malcom Kelly what he felt the difference from this year to last year was and he said the offense is more complicated, but that it was a good thing because we won't be as predictable as last year. He said he expects his hamstring to be healed in "a week".

I asked Phillip Daniels how he felt in the 3-4. He said, "Good", and then laughed and said you mean the 3-7. That sounds great to me!! He also mentioned he feels like he's 28. He's in great shape and moving well.

Grossman knows the offense and is accurate in QB drill and pass skeleton. McNabb looks a little too relaxed in QB drills, his passes aren't always as crisp or on target as they should be. However after every poor/mediocre throw he comes back with a good throw. In pass skeleton he looked fine. Unfortunately I couldn't get a good view of the team drills to evaluate what was going on. My son and I met McNabb at the hotel in the elevator on the way down to head out for camp. We spoke briefly, he was pleasant and seems to be a good guy, although he looked a bit tired. At the end of practice, he looked tired as well, but went over to sign autographs for a few minutes.

I wouldn't read too much into any of the QB performance right now. New personel, new offense, an aggressive D. McNabb is our starter, Grossman's the #2, Bartel/Beck will compete for the #3 and the other will wind up on the practice squad.

Other observations from Camp:
- In team there was a nice reverse with Parker that picked up about 9 yds.
- Grossman has a nice completion to Davis in a mid-deep zone.
- Landry made a great read and break up on a screen.
- Haynesworth has lost a great deal of weight. He was moving fine in drills. I'm sure the whole "conditioning test" thing and knee will be over by next week and he'll be practicing.
- In general, less flab all around compared to last year, especially on the OL/DL, Portis also.
- Weird, but very nice to see, Samuels in coaching gear.
- Defintely a more business-like approach than last year.
- KS is in control of the O, more complex route combos, progressions should be fast and obvious.
- Cooley and Orakpo were working together during a special team period. IMO, Orakpo is still going to be a liability in man coverage. Cooley also will not be blocking any D. Ware/Orakpo level folks one-on-one (LOL).
- TW and Dock got abused on a B-gap blitz in team. Not sure if it was them or the back failed to pick up. From far away it appeared to be a TW mis-read, but not sure.

Final thoughts:
- We will have an identity this year. Our D will be aggressive and hard to read. Our O will be a Zone Blocking base with lots of play actions (many PA waggles). Lots of bunch and crossing pass concepts. Our deep shots will come off play action a majority of the time.
- I think we will struggle offensively early, but fortunately the teams with good defenses we face early we have at home (Dallas, GB, Indy). The key will be to establish the run game, if we can we're in good shape. If not, then we'll struggle.
- Defensively we'll be more aggressive, but I think we'll give up some plays in the secondary. Overall our D will make more turnovers and negative plays, but I think we'll wind up in the 10-14 range in YPG and Pts at year end. The D should keep us in most games, but don't expect a dominant D (Jets, Steelers, Vikings).
- McNabb's ability to move around combined with a good ground game should have our O on track by mid-season. I don't see us blowing people out, but more of a methodical control the clock, be efficient, approach. McNabb's not a pure passer and our wide-outs are average (unless DT and Kelly make big strides). Our TEs will both be heavily involved.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:23 PM   #47
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THANKS SS33 for the effort!
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Well done SS33. Thanks for the updates. I got more from your one post than I have from Jason Reid all training camp.
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Good info. Thanks SS33.
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Great info, Slingin'

Definitely agree on Kory L. potentially starting

Seems like you observed a lot of the same things I heard yesterday. Tell me if you agree on these:

Selvish Capers is showing why he fell to the 7th round
Trent Williams' technique is like that of a seasoned vet
Fred Davis has been the best player on offense
Kevin Barnes is playing strong against the run, but still struggles against the pass
LJ and WP are struggling in pass protection
I've heard Will Montgomery has been playing with the 2nd team at G/C. Did you not see him yesterday?
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Great report SS33.

Quick question about the DL. Who looked good? I'm a bit surprised that Daniels and Holliday are our two starters at DE. Once Al gets on the field, he'll start (hopefully RE in front of Orakpo).

I was expecting to see
Carriker - Kemo - Haynesworth with us rotating in Daniels/Jarmon to the DE positions often to keep a fresh group out there.

Backup NT. I'm worried about Kemo at NT. The NT makes the 3-4 work, and I don't feel as if we really have one. Did he look okay? Did the 2nd string guy look decent?
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double post. Stupid work internet!
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how's the safety situation looking? i hope my boy Horton can get a starting spot. also how's 30 doing, is he looking comfortable or is he kinda second guessing himself, gambling and not wrapping up?

and anything on d. hall? thoughts, opinions, whatever

thanks for all the info SS33, well appreciated.
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Selvish Capers is showing why he fell to the 7th round
Trent Williams' technique is like that of a seasoned vet
Fred Davis has been the best player on offense
Yes on these.

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Kevin Barnes is playing strong against the run, but still struggles against the pass
LJ and WP are struggling in pass protection
Couldn't get a decent view of team to tell.

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I've heard Will Montgomery has been playing with the 2nd team at G/C. Did you not see him yesterday?
He was there, but not with the 2nd unit. I believe he did get reps though.
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Great report SS33.

Quick question about the DL. Who looked good? I'm a bit surprised that Daniels and Holliday are our two starters at DE. Once Al gets on the field, he'll start (hopefully RE in front of Orakpo).

I was expecting to see
Carriker - Kemo - Haynesworth with us rotating in Daniels/Jarmon to the DE positions often to keep a fresh group out there.

Backup NT. I'm worried about Kemo at NT. The NT makes the 3-4 work, and I don't feel as if we really have one. Did he look okay? Did the 2nd string guy look decent?
They're not, just shuffling the lineup

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Quick question about the DL. Who looked good? I'm a bit surprised that Daniels and Holliday are our two starters at DE. Once Al gets on the field, he'll start (hopefully RE in front of Orakpo).
Unfortunately the team periods were all on the far field and I couldn't get a good look of what was going on. Darrion Scott, Holliday and Jackson looked good in 1-on-1s. Didn't see anyone on the DL look particularly bad or slow. When AH was working with his position coach and Haslett after practice he was moving well and was practicing some NT technique. I expect our 3-4 is going to be a bit different from the traditional 3-4 with the NT moving around and not just head up the center on each play. Sorry I can't give a better answer here.

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I was expecting to see
Carriker - Kemo - Haynesworth with us rotating in Daniels/Jarmon to the DE positions often to keep a fresh group out there.
I expect a lot of rotation and different packages along the DL. Daniels and Holliday both look in great shape and are moving well.

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Backup NT. I'm worried about Kemo at NT. The NT makes the 3-4 work, and I don't feel as if we really have one. Did he look okay? Did the 2nd string guy look decent?
Kemo was moving fine and looks good. Anthony Bryant is a BIG dude and was getting reps, but again I had a poor view of team drills.
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Thanks for the kind words guys, glad to help out.
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Thank you for answering all that you could SlingingSam. Great work and some nice observations there.
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How many of the offensive linemen can we carry on the roster? If those are our starting & backup linemen, will Cook and Capers be able to stay on the roster? I'm all for young talent if they can make it.
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