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Old 07-29-2010, 03:24 PM   #61
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Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test

Looks like Shanny really wants to find out if Haynesworth wants to be a Redskin. Good for him.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:24 PM   #62
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Wait wait wait, how do we know this is a standard test? Do D-linemen normally get this kind of test?

If not, then how do we know if the test accurately reflects his ability(especially if the majority of D-Linemen may not pass this test). Again I dont know one way or another, just a question and not a rush to conclusion.
Any DB, WR, RB, QB, LB, or TE could have been reasonably expected to pass this conditioning test if they were in training camp shape. For lineman, you'd probably have a bunch of failures related to both BMI and conditioning level. You'd also have a bunch of lineman who'd pass easy. Casey Rabach, I think, would have done just fine. Trent Williams, probably as well. Dockery? Now we're getting into guys who'd really, really labor on a third 300 yd shuttle.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:25 PM   #63
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I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:26 PM   #64
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It was all about conditioning.

Are you saying they gave him a test that was impossible to pass?

Give me a freakin break. If he was in great condition he would have passed the test. The guy is never in great condition so they might have assumed that he wouldn't pass, but that's no reason not to test him.

That would just be protecting him from himself. The rest of the team would see right through that.

Dude needs to grow up. He needs to be in great shape.

He is a professional athlete.
The 'dude' is a top 5 interior DL in the NFL. There are plenty of really top lineman in the NFL that can not pass a rigorous cardio conditioning tests.
If we all really care about winning, it is time to put all of these ridiculous situations behind us. I realize Haynesworth is a selfish fat bastard and is mostly to blame. But he is a top interior DL in the NFL that combines a rare pass rush and run stopping ability. Continuing to make Haynesworth our public punching bag is not going to help us win.
Having a healthy and positive Haynesworth on our DL this year will help us win.
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I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.
A little payback perhaps? Let's run the guy ragged and drag his name through the mud one last time kind of thing? I can see that.
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Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test

I think one of the points people are missing is MS saw the other DL man working out everyday so he never had to test anyone else like this, so when AH showed up he had to push him harder makes sense to me. New season new FO.

HTTR.
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I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.
Yeah, but what good does that do? It's like suspending a kid from school for a week because he was skipping class.

I say do that opposite. Make him practice and that's where you ride him harder than everyone else. Every drill, "not fast enough Albert. You're not hitting hard enough Albert. Line up again Albert. You're still considered a back up Albert." Keep that shit up to prove a point but don't hold him out of practice until he can run up and down the field.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:29 PM   #68
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Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test

none of this would even be an issue if the fat ass would have just attended some of the voluntary work outs and the mandatory mini camp. fat al brought this on himself.
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I highly doubt MS wanted him to fail the test. Do we really think MS wants this drama to continue? Does he really want to have to keep answering questions about this guy??
Based purely on today's events, there's a correct answer to this, and it's not the way you're leaning.

As for what Shanahan is ultimately trying to do here (because, obviously, there was premeditation here), I don't really know. Because I don't know, I can't tell you if I think it will backfire. Maybe he's done this "test" with other players -- like a Gerrard Warren, back in the day -- and then demoted them for effect on the team. We're so far beyond the realm of something I feel comfortable analyzing that it's almost worth not talking about.

But because it's Haynesworth, it's not going away.
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SS's article sure made me think Shanny wanted to get the point across. In a grown up world, we all get it. Tomorrow he takes it and passes, and we move on. I am far more curious and (a little bit) concerned about the lack of info on TW, then AH's latest twist.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:33 PM   #71
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According to the Washington Post, Albert Haynesworth "apparently" needed a bathroom break during the second portion of his conditioning test Thursday, explaining his failure to finish.
The test consisted of two grueling 300-yard shuttle runs. He aced the first, but walked through the second, in apparent need of a bowel movement. Haynesworth will not be allowed to practice until he completes both runs. By all accounts, he's in good shape, so he should be fine on Friday's retake


Read this at PFT....this is too funny if this is true. HTTR!!!
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Look, it's Shanny's team, full stop. My guess is that AH took a bathroom break, and the coaches said fine, start over. And I bet they'd do that to any player, though AH certainly wasn't going to get special favors here.

What, should Shanny begin camp by giving AH special treatment because he's so good and such a key team player? **** that. I'm with Shanny 100% here.

I agree that this will be gone in a day or so, but the principle is clear: no special treatment for prima donnas. Those days are over. Time to become a good football TEAM!
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Re: Haynesworth fails conditioning test

From a different point of view: I know there are vets here, I wonder what my sgt would have said if I stopped my 2 mile run for a potty break.

(Actually I don't wonder, I would simply have failed).

Just get on the field, take the test and pass.
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Old 07-29-2010, 03:39 PM   #74
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I also wish there could have been a "People of Walmart" type shot of AH as MS told him he failed.
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I'm sure there was more to it than simply failing a conditioning test. But I don't think Shanahan was going to just let Haynesworth show up without making him pay at least a little bit for the past several weeks.

Not like he was going to just let him walk in as if nothing happened.

At the end of the day though, not a huge deal. So Haynesworth misses maybe one day of practice and is forced to sit and watch his teammates.
I'm not saying that this is right/wrong, fair/unfair, or that Shanahan is handling this the wrong way (though I am saying its inherently stubborn and childish), but if I'm head coach, that bolded part is exactly what I do. He walks in and goes to the second string like nothing happened.

To me, that "demotion", if you can even call it that, is completely fair. You weren't here, other guys were, we're going with them from day one. I'd probably do that much. But that's it. He's part of the second team defense from the moment he shows up. More football, less politics.
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