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Old 09-08-2010, 02:32 AM   #46
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:42 AM   #47
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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
Thats why you use one as a wideout and the other as a traditional Tight End.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:59 AM   #48
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

Well,at least Santana Moss feels the same way...
Santana Moss: "This receving corps is an upgrade from anything I've had here" - EXTREMESKINS.com
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This time last year Cooley was singing JZ's praises (and I was buying it ) When it comes to player speak, just show it on the field. The rest is just PR bs
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:04 AM   #50
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This time last year Cooley was singing JZ's praises (and I was buying it ) When it comes to player speak, just show it on the field. The rest is just PR bs

Exactly, the PR MS honeymoon is over now. Now it is show me the money time.
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

One of the things you'll see this season is 2 TE sets, where either Davis or Cooley end up in motion to the slot to create mismatches. There aren't too many LBs in the league that can cover those 2, and if you bring a safety up, that'll leave an area open for McNabb to pick apart.

That aside, the only proven entity that the Skins line up at WR is Moss, and he's a 2 or 3 at best on other squads. Guys like Armstrong and Thomas needs to step it up so Moss can see action out of the slot. If either one of those 2 struggle, it'll be a long season. I don't see Galloway lasting the season, and unless Shanny knows something about Roydell Williams that the rest of us don't, McNabb will be throwing a lot of dink and dunks to Portis and Johnson out of the backfield.
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

All 6 of our receivers have one thing going for them that no one has touched on yet - they are not Albert Haynesworth. I think many of you completely underestimate the value of players not named Albert Haynesworth. In fact, I just had my fantasy draft this past weekend and in the later rounds, I drafted several players simply because they weren't named Haynesworth. I think that alone will help me win my league this year. If not, its good for atleast 10 points per game per player... I'm just assuming that at around 90 points a game I wouldnt have for each position where I did not draft Albert Haynesworth. Thats got to equal a win, right?
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We're clearly last in the division. Look up what Philly did last year with Jackson, Maclin, and Avant. Our group isn't even close right now.
I can't really argue that. They probably are better. They did have a QB though who makes lots of plays and had a decent OL. Jackson is very good, w/ Maclin and Avant coming around. McNabb made all of them better.

This will be an interesting year to see how Moss stacks up w/ Jackson though. Moss could have a great year. Jackson is special though.
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So you pick one off yea and us that as the example. How about looking back at just about every year McNabb has played and look at the production he could get ot of WR's like Thrash. Then just look back at every other year Brady has played. If you don't think WR's need a good QB then your probably the only one.
Of course WR's need a good QB. No one is arguing against that.

The point I made was specifically about Galloway. Last year he had a good QB and still could not get it done. In fact, he hasn't gotten it done for several years. He'd be retired if we didn't offer him a home. That's pathetic.
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Galloway has an impressive resume in this league. I wouldn't let the last 2 years tarnish that. He was simply a bad fit in NE's system. He could really surprise us this year.
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Re: (Vent thread) I'm sorry,but the notion,that the Redskins have "no" receivers is just stupid!

I think its either 1 of 2 things

1) the FO/coaching staff has no clue how to evaluate WRs and our receiving corps is in fact woefully inadequate
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2) the WRs are good enough to effectively run our scheme

I'll go with 2
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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
The Bears and the Colts come to mind. Of course it depends what you consider significant impact. In my book there are only a handful of players in the NFL warrant the distinction of "Significant Impact."
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Galloway has an impressive resume in this league. I wouldn't let the last 2 years tarnish that. He was simply a bad fit in NE's system. He could really surprise us this year.

I'm killing it with him on Madden 11...that has to be taken into factor. Crowd the line and bam, audible to a Galloway streak ...TD.
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I cant think of any offense in recent memory where 2 good tight ends has had a significant impact on thier success. I feel like if Cooley starts all 16 games then Fred Davis is going to have very little impact.
Because its very rare to have 2 top tier TEs.
And i guess it depends on how you define sigificant impact.
Because if there are 2 TEs they don't put up equally big numbers.
Therefore the impact isn't apparent just glancing at stats.
The impact is felt in the favorable match-ups they create.

Billick 101: 2 TE Formation - Bing Videos

NFL Videos: Week 14 Playbook: Brian Billick on tight ends

Off the top of my head recent teams?

Packers- Lee/Finley
Bears- Olsen/Clark
Lions- Pettigrew/Heller/Fitzsimmons
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This season, the Washington Redskins may run a lot of plays out of formations where both Chris Cooley and Fred Davis are on the field, per Rick Maese of the Washington Post. This double-TE strategy is based primarily on two things: the talent level of Cooley and Davis, and the lack of options at wide receiver behind Santana Moss.

In addition, Cooley thinks that McNabb is the type of QB to trust his arm to get the ball into tight spots than his predecessor Jason Campbell. "I expect to get more balls thrown to me with Donovan and more opportunity in coverage when I don't expect passes than with Jason," Cooley said.

Another benefit of using two TEs is making use of them as extra blockers in the running game. Although the Redskins made improving the offensive line a major priority this offseason -- drafting Trent Williams, trading for Jammal Brown and signing Artis Hicks -- it's still a work in progress. Having an extra body out there to control the edge will be vital.

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