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Monkeydad · 07-03-2012, 10:03 AM

The potato suggestion again...

Lotus · 07-03-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

If the Skins changed their logo to a potato then this discussion would go away, but they arent doing that so at some point the small group will become big enough that the name and logo will change. It might be 5 years or it might 25 but it will happen. I could see them changing the name to something like Warriors and still using the spear logo.

Washington Spuds. I like it. No one would make fun of that team name.

RedskinRat · 07-03-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

....so at some point the small group will become big enough that the name and logo will change.

There's no reason a small group of imbeciles should get bigger, what are you basing that on? They will fade away and then a marketing team will give a Powerpoint demonstration of why a name change would bring in 'X' more revenue, at that point the name will change. This will then be followed by another marketing team a few years later exulting the marketability of a brand steeped in history and we'll be back to the Redskins.

No name change is needed, no basis for it.

Mattyk · 07-03-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

If the Skins changed their logo to a potato then this discussion would go away, but they arent doing that so at some point the small group will become big enough that the name and logo will change. It might be 5 years or it might 25 but it will happen. I could see them changing the name to something like Warriors and still using the spear logo.

Without legit legal pressure it's simply not happening. 20 years have gone by and this movement has gone nowhere in court. The Supreme Court refused to even hear the case in 2009.

mooby · 07-03-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Washington Spuds. I like it. No one would make fun of that team name.

No love for Washington Sweet Potatoes? Washington Cheesy Potatoes sounds better actually.

Daseal · 07-03-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

If the Skins changed their logo to a potato then this discussion would go away, but they arent doing that so at some point the small group will become big enough that the name and logo will change. It might be 5 years or it might 25 but it will happen. I could see them changing the name to something like Warriors and still using the spear logo.

When I think growing demographics... I think the American Indian!

Lotus · 07-03-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

No love for Washington Sweet Potatoes? Washington Cheesy Potatoes sounds better actually.

I prefer Washington Skank-Hos, with a logo which looks like a vagina.

irish · 07-03-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

No love for Washington Sweet Potatoes? Washington Cheesy Potatoes sounds better actually.

The logo would be a redskin potato, they are in every grocery store. Just because this hasnt gone anywhere in court now doesnt mean it wont in the future. I agree with a previous post that the real spark for change will come when the owner/nfl realize they can make a ton of $ changing the name/logo and selling a bunch of junk to people.

Mattyk · 07-03-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The logo would be a redskin potato, they are in every grocery store. Just because this hasnt gone anywhere in court now doesnt mean it wont in the future. I agree with a previous post that the real spark for change will come when the owner/nfl realize they can make a ton of $ changing the name/logo and selling a bunch of junk to people.

If it hasn't gone anywhere by now, it's simply not going to happen

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The name became the registered trademark of the team in 1967. The seven native Americans didn't file their lawsuit until 1992 – 25 years later.

Trademarks can be challenged on grounds that they disparage someone. But the football team argued that disparagement must be determined at the time the trademark is registered.

Lawyers for the native Americans say the name was disparaging and offensive in 1967 and that the trademark should never have been issued. They argued that the law permits them to bring a disparagement lawsuit at any time.

An appeals board at the US trademark office agreed with the native Americans that the term "redskins" is today and has historically been a disparaging racial epithet. But that decision was overturned by a federal judge and the Washington-based appeals court in subsequent rulings that the group had waited too long to bring its challenge.

Washington Redskins can keep team name; Supreme Court refuses native Americans' suit - CSMonitor.com

HailGreen28 · 07-03-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Its only a matter of time before the redskins change their name or their logo.

A name change isn't happening unless the team moves. A logo change sure, we've had changes before.

mooby · 07-03-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The logo would be a redskin potato, they are in every grocery store. Just because this hasnt gone anywhere in court now doesnt mean it wont in the future. I agree with a previous post that the real spark for change will come when the owner/nfl realize they can make a ton of $ changing the name/logo and selling a bunch of junk to people.

Idk, other potatoes might find the redskin potato image to be offensive, and then we're right back where we started.

SBXVII · 07-03-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Without legit legal pressure it's simply not happening. 20 years have gone by and this movement has gone nowhere in court. The Supreme Court refused to even hear the case in 2009.

I think people in society are bored or have nothing better to do then find some insignificant issue to take on to argue. We see it everywhere. But maybe the team should find a way to incorporate the Indians whom would like the name to be changed and each year have an awarness day where they are brought in and can give a halftime show, let them sell their items and let them enjoy a game. Maybe finding a way to change the stigma of the term "Redskin" from a negative stigma to a positive stigma might help go a long way vs. ignoring them and having to go to court every few yrs and fighting to keep the name.

But ... IF the team had to change the name I'd change the colors to to Red, White, and Blue colors. If you can't have the name might as well call it an end to an era.

SBXVII · 07-03-2012, 12:38 PM

AND.... when I say awareness day I'm refering to the Indian plight, not bringing in the very Indians whom would like to have the name changed and would picket or put on a show about changing the name.

irish · 07-03-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think people in society are bored or have nothing better to do then find some insignificant issue to take on to argue. We see it everywhere. But maybe the team should find a way to incorporate the Indians whom would like the name to be changed and each year have an awarness day where they are brought in and can give a halftime show, let them sell their items and let them enjoy a game. Maybe finding a way to change the stigma of the term "Redskin" from a negative stigma to a positive stigma might help go a long way vs. ignoring them and having to go to court every few yrs and fighting to keep the name.

But ... IF the team had to change the name I'd change the colors to to Red, White, and Blue colors. If you can't have the name might as well call it an end to an era.

I'm not advocating for or against a change because I dont care but there will be a change at some point. Courts change, times change and change comes.

I find it interesting that you recommend having an awareness day as an attempt to change the negative stigma of the word redskin. It seems to me that would be the last thing the Skins would want to do because by doing that they would essentially be admitting the word redskin is offensive.

mooby · 07-03-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I think people in society are bored or have nothing better to do then find some insignificant issue to take on to argue. We see it everywhere. But maybe the team should find a way to incorporate the Indians whom would like the name to be changed and each year have an awarness day where they are brought in and can give a halftime show, let them sell their items and let them enjoy a game. Maybe finding a way to change the stigma of the term "Redskin" from a negative stigma to a positive stigma might help go a long way vs. ignoring them and having to go to court every few yrs and fighting to keep the name.

But ... IF the team had to change the name I'd change the colors to to Red, White, and Blue colors. If you can't have the name might as well call it an end to an era.

Lol, some might find that more offensive than the Redskin name to begin with. "Here, you guys can have ten minutes to have an Indian pride rally on the field, enjoy! Sell some blankets and whatnot! Sorry that half the fans are waiting in line at concession stands"

I know what I wrote is a stretch, but come on. Snyder would never do anything like that, probably because the name issue isn't a huge concern.

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