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Old 09-18-2010, 02:09 AM   #46
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I mean, it's hit or miss..you have to get that special guy who produces after he gets paid. Most people get hit with all that money and they think that's it...they've hit the TOP. You have to find that Jerry Rice who continues to work hard and better himself and be the best.

Hard to tell who will do what, everybody will BS you till you are blue in the face....


anybody else remember a certain Hayne$worth saying, it's not about the money...I want to be the best ever.

... well how is he turning out for us so far?
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Old 09-18-2010, 02:11 AM   #47
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but I say winning cures all!

I'm so happy D Thomas is returning PUNTS. cause he's a CUNT!

Loving the Shanny ERA! Just what this team needs! He doesn't give a shit where you are drafted, if you show up and play hard...you'll get in the game....no matter what round you were drafted...cough cough..DT. He's the tough love this teams need in an ERA where people only care about MONEY.
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when did DT return a punt?

how loaded are you right now lol
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Old 09-18-2010, 09:18 AM   #49
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I have been a Redskin fan for many years and for some odd reason we have not had much success drafting wide receivers. The most successful WR we have drafted that I can remember was Art Monk ( Hall Of Famer ). We have drafted over the years at wr people like Desmond Howard ( Michigan) , Michael Westbrook ( Colorado) , Taylor Jacobs ( Florida), Rod Gardener (Clemson) Darnerian McCants, James Thrash (Missouri Southern), Albert Connel ( Texas AM). We have traded for such wr as L. Coles, and S. Moss. We have signed free agents wr Brandon LLoyd , ARE, Andre Reed, Keenan McCardell, Irving Fryer, Gary Clark, Henry Ellard, players at the end of their careers. I did not include Ricky Sanders , Virgil Seay , Charlie Brown, Charlie Taylor just to name a few more because that was so long ago.

Like I was saying we have not done well drafting wr such as more recent Malcom Kelly, Devon Thomas, Marko Mitchell. When will this curse end? So now we have fans looking to trade for another teams wr Vincent Jackson , I guess it maybe wiser to trade for VJ than to waste another pick on a WR.
Actually we drafted Keenan McCardell out of college. One of the rare good picks by Charlie Casserly.

You're correct though, our track record at drafting wideouts has been about as good as our track record for drafting quarterbacks.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:20 AM   #51
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but I say winning cures all!

I'm so happy D Thomas is returning PUNTS. cause he's a CUNT!

Loving the Shanny ERA! Just what this team needs! He doesn't give a shit where you are drafted, if you show up and play hard...you'll get in the game....no matter what round you were drafted...cough cough..DT. He's the tough love this teams need in an ERA where people only care about MONEY.
****ing moron. If you want to trash someone, at least know what they are actually doing. #31 is returning punts for us. Also, please learn the difference between being ignorant and being malicious, and Devin was more likely be the former than the latter.

Not only that, he did well in kick returns and you call him a freaking vagina. Jealous?
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:07 AM   #52
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well duh! cunt doesn't rhyme with kick return!

how are you people defending this turd? he has done NOTHING for us...nothing. Wow, he's returned some kicks for us...so....banks is taking over that when he returns.
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Actually we drafted Keenan McCardell out of college. One of the rare good picks by Charlie Casserly.

You're correct though, our track record at drafting wideouts has been about as good as our track record for drafting quarterbacks.
I agree with you on wr's and qb's, but Casserly had a lot of great picks. Probably more with Houston than Skins (Mario Williams, Andre Johnson, Demarco Ryans, etc...) but when he drafted Champ Bailey and still got all of the Saints picks so they could get Ricky Williams he did an outstanding job.
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well duh! cunt doesn't rhyme with kick return!

how are you people defending this turd? he has done NOTHING for us...nothing. Wow, he's returned some kicks for us...so....banks is taking over that when he returns.
Yeah, because some of us are optimistic that Shanny's new attitude will wake him up completely and he'll produce.

Meanwhile, you heap praise on Shanny's new atttiude but then proceed to implicitly trash him by heavily implying that Devin is hopeless and shouldn't even be on the team.
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well duh! cunt doesn't rhyme with kick return!

how are you people defending this turd? he has done NOTHING for us...nothing. Wow, he's returned some kicks for us...so....banks is taking over that when he returns.
on KR? probably not
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Old 09-18-2010, 01:46 PM   #56
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I think that the Redskins and their fans still have the mindset of instant gratification. We have to develop this young talent that we have here. Look at philly, the reason that their young recievers are so good is because Andy Reid left himself with no other options. It was the young guys had to get good or else we suck. Our guys have to have the opportunity in gameday situations to develop and grow. That means we need to make it a priority to throw to them frequently. Get them in the game and let them develop confidence.

Dallas made it a priority to try to get Dez Bryant the ball. It may have caused them to get a loss up front against us, but it let Dez know that he is "their guy". The redskins don't do that. I feel that right now we should make it a priority to get Armstrong, Davis, and Thomas the ball frequently in game day situations. Until we give our young guys a chance we will never have good receivers here. I also think we should resign Marko and give him a shot to develop as well.
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Guys,
I agree throwing to the least experienced small WR on a fade in the endzone was probably not the best choice...but the reality is this....when you have a really fast WR opposite Moss, it opens up the game for him and others to get open...regardless if he can catch or not....so lets not just look at his individual numbers, lets look at the impact of having a fast WR does to our overall ability to get the ball to Moss and TE's....

What I saw was that Moss was a lot more open that he has been in a while.
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I disagree with M Westbrook and Albert Connell being bad choices, as they did end up producing late in their stay with us. The Turner era was rather "funky" as the ownership of the franchise, was up in the air for the most part, and we didn't have a D coordinator worth a damn. On top of that you got stuck with the Shuler disaster that put a 7th round QB as our starter. Although Westbrook got banged up often, he still was a lot more servicable that Jacobs and Kelly. I also am not sure Rod Gardner was a waste either since he also did produce for us, but never was a TO, Ocho type like we hoped. THe problem with these guys basically is we have been in rebuilding mode constantly for going on 2 decades.
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I think that the Redskins and their fans still have the mindset of instant gratification. We have to develop this young talent that we have here. Look at philly, the reason that their young recievers are so good is because Andy Reid left himself with no other options. It was the young guys had to get good or else we suck. Our guys have to have the opportunity in gameday situations to develop and grow. That means we need to make it a priority to throw to them frequently. Get them in the game and let them develop confidence.

Dallas made it a priority to try to get Dez Bryant the ball. It may have caused them to get a loss up front against us, but it let Dez know that he is "their guy". The redskins don't do that. I feel that right now we should make it a priority to get Armstrong, Davis, and Thomas the ball frequently in game day situations. Until we give our young guys a chance we will never have good receivers here. I also think we should resign Marko and give him a shot to develop as well.
We've waited 19 years for a return to the promise land. In this day and age you shouldn't have to wait that long to get yourself back on the championship track. The New Orleans Saints went from 3-13 in 2005 to Super Bowl champs in four years.

Not only that, this team, the coaching staff and the front office have taken the "win now" approach. There's no rebuilding here. There's no time for the "young talent" to develop. In fact, this is an older team -- there's not much in the way of "young talent" to begin with.

Marko Mitchell had his chance. He has seen the ball in regular season play, has been invited to minicamps, and played in preseason. He's bounced around from team to team this year and coaching staffs haven't found a reason to keep him. He's had chance after chance to make an impact.

Let go of him. He's done.
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We've waited 19 years for a return to the promise land. In this day and age you shouldn't have to wait that long to get yourself back on the championship track. The New Orleans Saints went from 3-13 in 2005 to Super Bowl champs in four years.

Not only that, this team, the coaching staff and the front office have taken the "win now" approach. There's no rebuilding here. There's no time for the "young talent" to develop. In fact, this is an older team -- there's not much in the way of "young talent" to begin with.

Marko Mitchell had his chance. He has seen the ball in regular season play, has been invited to minicamps, and played in preseason. He's bounced around from team to team this year and coaching staffs haven't found a reason to keep him. He's had chance after chance to make an impact.

Let go of him. He's done.
Those 19 years were not necessarily defined by an ipassive FO, especially after Snyder took over.

Basically, there are a 1000 football cliches that are half-truths, but if you want to cling to those instead of concrete economic principles, then I'm glad that you aren't running any football team.
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