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Old 09-18-2010, 09:29 PM   #61
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I think that the Redskins and their fans still have the mindset of instant gratification. We have to develop this young talent that we have here. Look at philly, the reason that their young recievers are so good is because Andy Reid left himself with no other options. It was the young guys had to get good or else we suck. Our guys have to have the opportunity in gameday situations to develop and grow. That means we need to make it a priority to throw to them frequently. Get them in the game and let them develop confidence.

Dallas made it a priority to try to get Dez Bryant the ball. It may have caused them to get a loss up front against us, but it let Dez know that he is "their guy". The redskins don't do that. I feel that right now we should make it a priority to get Armstrong, Davis, and Thomas the ball frequently in game day situations. Until we give our young guys a chance we will never have good receivers here. I also think we should resign Marko and give him a shot to develop as well.
We've waited 19 years for a return to the promise land. In this day and age you shouldn't have to wait that long to get yourself back on the championship track. The New Orleans Saints went from 3-13 in 2005 to Super Bowl champs in four years.

Not only that, this team, the coaching staff and the front office have taken the "win now" approach. There's no rebuilding here. There's no time for the "young talent" to develop. In fact, this is an older team -- there's not much in the way of "young talent" to begin with.

Marko Mitchell had his chance. He has seen the ball in regular season play, has been invited to minicamps, and played in preseason. He's bounced around from team to team this year and coaching staffs haven't found a reason to keep him. He's had chance after chance to make an impact.

Let go of him. He's done.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:05 PM   #62
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We've waited 19 years for a return to the promise land. In this day and age you shouldn't have to wait that long to get yourself back on the championship track. The New Orleans Saints went from 3-13 in 2005 to Super Bowl champs in four years.

Not only that, this team, the coaching staff and the front office have taken the "win now" approach. There's no rebuilding here. There's no time for the "young talent" to develop. In fact, this is an older team -- there's not much in the way of "young talent" to begin with.

Marko Mitchell had his chance. He has seen the ball in regular season play, has been invited to minicamps, and played in preseason. He's bounced around from team to team this year and coaching staffs haven't found a reason to keep him. He's had chance after chance to make an impact.

Let go of him. He's done.
Those 19 years were not necessarily defined by an ipassive FO, especially after Snyder took over.

Basically, there are a 1000 football cliches that are half-truths, but if you want to cling to those instead of concrete economic principles, then I'm glad that you aren't running any football team.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:47 PM   #63
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Dude what the hell are you talking about?
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Dude what the hell are you talking about?
Four years is ample time to grab talent steadily through the draft and develop them. In fact, the litmus test for WRs is only three years at most and there should be flashes of talent within the first and second years. You look at the Saints roster, and there's a whole load of players they groomed from the time they drafted them or picked up as UDFA.
Draft well to build the team and draft well to keep the team good. Use FA and trades to fill up any remaining holes or snatch unexpected windfalls. I doubt you'll see any team who does NOT follow this mantra actually make it to the Super Bowl.
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Four years is ample time to grab talent steadily through the draft and develop them. In fact, the litmus test for WRs is only three years at most and there should be flashes of talent within the first and second years. You look at the Saints roster, and there's a whole load of players they groomed from the time they drafted them or picked up as UDFA.
Draft well to build the team and draft well to keep the team good. Use FA and trades to fill up any remaining holes or snatch unexpected windfalls. I doubt you'll any team who does NOT follow this mantra and actually make it to the Super Bowl.

Amen to that!!!!! We have been using draft picks as bargaining chips to get high priced FAs that usually don't deliver the rate of return on our "investment". For over a decade we have been in this win now mode using draft picks to secure free agent skilled players or linemen instead of using the picks to actually get young talent that can be developed. How the hell can you develop talent, always changing coaching staffs and schemes? Using FAs should be used to fill remaining gaps like you have said, that the draft couldn't cover. We have only been fully utilizing Free agency and have hampered our drafts significantly, thus any rebuilding effort is stymied.
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Amen to that!!!!! We have been using draft picks as bargaining chips to get high priced FAs that usually don't deliver the rate of return on our "investment". For over a decade we have been in this win now mode using draft picks to secure free agent skilled players or linemen instead of using the picks to actually get young talent that can be developed. How the hell can you develop talent, always changing coaching staffs and schemes? Using FAs should be used to fill remaining gaps like you have said, that the draft couldn't cover. We have only been fully utilizing Free agency and have hampered our drafts significantly, thus any rebuilding effort is stymied.
I do not count traded players as free agents as they are not really "free". However, "established" in the NFL is absolutely NOT synonymous with "risk-free".

Every player transaction carries some risk; it's just that if you usually flame out on a draft pick you just lose the pick and the cheap contract you gave the rookie. Flame out on a "well-paid" FA and you lose out on more money, cap room, and possibly a cheaper alternative. Flame out on a "big-name" trade like Brandon Lloyd and you lose out on cap room, picks for potential future players, and whoever would have been on the roster spot instead of the traded player.

Not that one should NEVER touch trades or FA, but they should be used for finding role players or windfalls like Brees, Reggie White, Cutler, etc. It definitely should not be every season, "let's just grab the top FAs and make a big trade this year at all costs". Even someone playing freaking Madden(at least the ancient Madden 2002) could see that the top FAs for an offseason may not go over a rating of 80 and/or are overpriced and old.
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Actually we drafted Keenan McCardell out of college. One of the rare good picks by Charlie Casserly.

You're correct though, our track record at drafting wideouts has been about as good as our track record for drafting quarterbacks.
Your right we had McCardell but we did not see his potential so we released him.
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