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Old 11-26-2004, 01:57 PM   #16
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I think Ramsey will be our guy at least through next season...I feel before we can write him off, he needs a full season starting under Gibbs' system...unless he plays as bad as Brunell which I don't think any other QB in the league could play that badly...except for Henson (hehe j/k.) The WRs is a question mark right now. Coles is still our best receiver, but he's going to have to be healthy to make an impact. Gardner has the ability if he would just catch the freakin' ball more! Portis is okay, but what I have said before is that we need a big fullback for those 3 and short plays....Portis is best on 1st and 2nd down. Maybe trade LB for a big Bettis size FB and upgrade the OL. Get our injured starters back on the line and bring in some huge guys to reinstall the jumble package that Gibbs used in the 80's (heavy jumble which he got from John Madden.) Face it guys...our offense is going to be mostly ball control..running to set up the pass so we might as well work on getting the OL repaired first....and developing the QBs and WRs that we have right now.
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:11 PM   #17
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Lavar is a great player, but is health a concern? it doesnt matter how good you are if you arent on the field.....
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:30 PM   #18
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A drastic overhaul isn't needed.

Minimal changes is what I'd like to see.
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Old 11-26-2004, 03:45 PM   #19
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Stacey Mack could be cheap.
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Old 11-26-2004, 10:08 PM   #20
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You don't have to trade for Brees if you want him. He will be a free agent. All you have to do is to make him a higher offer than anyone else does.

Would I do that? No.
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Old 11-27-2004, 02:13 AM   #21
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minimal changes... getting another QB is so clearly foolish that i wouldnt expect anyone to even mention it. unless ramsey gets horribly injured or just stinks it up supremely, there's no reason why he shudnt be at the helm next season. d-line mostly... any other little fixes would be nice. what we need is time with the same crew. that's it.
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:55 AM   #22
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I really wonder if the Chargers will find a way to keep Brees.

They're in a tough spot, Brees has finally become the QB they invisioned when he was drafted and they just spent another high first round pick on Rivers.

It would suck for them to just let Brees walk, maybe they'll try to work some sort of sign and trade deal.
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Old 11-27-2004, 03:36 PM   #23
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Trade LaVar, trade Samuels, trade Gardner, Ramsey, Betts hell why not Jansen and Smoot while you are at it? We cannot go chopping and changing players every year and then scratch our heads as to why we always loose.

Bailey was an abberation he flat out didn't want to be here which is why we used him to trade for Portis and really the teams overal talent didn't go down because of the change but I really hope it is not a yearly thing that we trade franchise players.
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:05 AM   #24
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no way do the skins trade arrington. he's been the best defensive player the skins have had since he was drafted. as far as him living up to his potential, i think he has, espacially when you consider he hasn't played for the same d-coordinator since he's been here ( 5 in 5 years ). he is also a leader on d, he's a game breaker, he creates turnovers, he's a pro-bowler. the skins d is good without him and their keeping the games close but with arrington the d would be great and possibly winning games rather than just keeping them close. no way do we trade arrington.

Arrington in the game is the difference between recovering a fumble & recovering a fumble for a TD; difference between Mcnabb scrambling out of the pocket & running for 10+ yards or Mcnabb taking a sack for a loss of yards.

The Skins need Arrington healthy & happy

Keep the team intact for another season. Draft smart, & build a better o-line for 05 & then we can see who's the weakest link(s).

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Old 11-28-2004, 10:57 AM   #25
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They are in a tight spot, I don't see why Bree's would do a sign and trade unless he's restricted? If so then probably, if not then why let someone else dictate where you are going to play? Who know's they may deciede to keep Bree's and trade River's, the Charger's will be a serious contender next year with Bree's, can we say that about River's? If Bree's get's this team into the playoff's and perform's well during the post season I wouldn't be surprised if they traded River's especially after his anything but pleasant holdout to start the season, it would also give the charger's a little leverage to sign Bree's, I would think he would like nothing more than to stick it in River's ear, he would also be playing in an offense he know's, and is comfortable running, food for thought.
If they were to do some sort of sign and trade I'd imagine to make it work Brees himself would have to have some say in where he goes.

The Chargers are in a tough situation, one that I wouldn't want to be in that's for sure.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:19 PM   #26
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Drew Brees is proof that a little patience can work. He has been in the same system for a few years now, and is finally coming on. Yeah, it has taken longer than they had planned, but who's to say the same type of thing can't happen with Ramsey a year sooner??? No one knows, and the only way to find out is to just let him play.
This team, AND IT'S FANS has to get rid of the quick fix mentality! Our QB situation is fine how it is. We need to have patience. Yeah, it sucks this year, but the whole point in Gibbs coming back was to bring stability, and switching QB's every year is not the way to do that.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:25 PM   #27
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QB really isnt that pressing right now... ramsey's not peyton, but he's hitting most of his throws and avoiding bad calls well, so now the focus is back to the Oline blocking and WR drops and lack of seperation... it obvious now that brunell was a problem and that ramsey should have started at least 3 weeks earlier, but its also obvious that gibbs wasn't fibbing when he said there were other problems as well.
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Old 11-29-2004, 02:54 PM   #28
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Drew Brees is proof that a little patience can work. He has been in the same system for a few years now, and is finally coming on. Yeah, it has taken longer than they had planned, but who's to say the same type of thing can't happen with Ramsey a year sooner??? No one knows, and the only way to find out is to just let him play.
This team, AND IT'S FANS has to get rid of the quick fix mentality! Our QB situation is fine how it is. We need to have patience. Yeah, it sucks this year, but the whole point in Gibbs coming back was to bring stability, and switching QB's every year is not the way to do that.
I couldn't agree more.

Marty is having success in San Diego because the front office has stuck with him and given him a realistic chance to turn things around.

Nowadays in the NFL it's like if you can't win in 1 or 2 years the fans are ready to ride you outta town.

Quick fixes rarely work, we should be experts on this topic by now.
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:01 PM   #29
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I couldn't agree more.


Nowadays in the NFL it's like if you can't win in 1 or 2 years the fans are ready to ride you outta town.

Same could be said about the sports media as well....

Even a guy in my Calc class this morning at the University told me that he heard on Sports Center that Gibbs is going to step down after this season. I find it hard to believe and until I hear it coming out of Gibbs' mouth I'm going to consider it nothing but fodder.
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:38 PM   #30
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I am having a hard time understanding why people seem to be supporting Ramsey so much. Why? What exactly has he done that makes people think he will be able to lead this team to the playoffs and beyond? Has he show anything other than being able to throw the ball far (arm strength means nothing if you can't get it anywhere near your receivers)? As far as Drew Brees is concerned - one good year - that's it. If he comes here, he will have no Gates to throw to and a group of erceivers who can't get open and when they do - they drop the ball. Signing him would be a huge mistake. He would have to learn a new offense and would probably not be very effective.

I say:

1. HIRE A GENERAL MANAGER -BYE BYE VINNY
2. Get rid of Samuels - he is not worth half his money
3. The Gardner era is OVER - trade him for whatever we can get for him
4. Dump Morton - he is getting paid to return for 5 yards a punt (it seems like 5 yards)
5. Sign Smoot, period.
6. Draft O-LINE, namely Elton Brown from Virginia.
7. Trade for Matt Schaub - he will be a very good QB in this league - why not for us?

Any thoughts????????????
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