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Old 11-25-2004, 07:43 PM   #1
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do you think this is crazy

ok i think the turkey might be getting to me but, i think i'm having a apaphny....

this offseason i think we should trade samuels,cut brunnell, trade both gardner and betts, and trade ramesy


i think we can geta first for ramsey and w/ that pick take either the QB out of Cal or the guy from Louisv. keep hasselbeck, we need to cut the fat for 2006 NOW
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Old 11-25-2004, 08:13 PM   #2
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Why would we trade Ramsey essentially for a rookie QB?? I mean theres no clear cut great QB's in this draft like last year. I would really hate to see somthing like that go down. Ramsey hasent been given a full chance to prove himself ( although he is about to get it ), theres no reason to trade him unless we are getting a proven commodity in return.
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Old 11-25-2004, 08:16 PM   #3
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Why would we trade Ramsey essentially for a rookie QB?? I mean theres no clear cut great QB's in this draft like last year. I would really hate to see somthing like that go down. Ramsey hasent been given a full chance to prove himself ( although he is about to get it ), theres no reason to trade him unless we are getting a proven commodity in return.
SO what do you guys think of Drew Brees?

God Knows Fox was trying to pry 1 or both of our 1st round picks away from us before our very eyes to acquire Brees based on Henson's 1st half of his 1st start

What a joke...
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:11 PM   #4
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I remember people on this board at the end of last season absolutely ripping Brees. Saying he didn't have the arm strength, etc. I like the guy as a QB, but he's nothing special.
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Old 11-25-2004, 09:37 PM   #5
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I remember people on this board at the end of last season absolutely ripping Brees. Saying he didn't have the arm strength, etc. I like the guy as a QB, but he's nothing special.
I agree..I think he's a one year wonder and whomever is foolish enough to trade a 1st rounder to SD for him (if he is likely franchised) and give him a big contract....

Well, God Bless their GM who'll be looking for employment
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Old 11-25-2004, 11:43 PM   #6
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I agree..I think he's a one year wonder and whomever is foolish enough to trade a 1st rounder to SD for him (if he is likely franchised) and give him a big contract....

Well, God Bless their GM who'll be looking for employment
well hell as much as I hate to say it were foolish enuff to do it,look what we did with brunell,at least bree's is young and can still play,it's too early too be discussing that shit anyway,hopefully gibbs will let ramsey finish out the season and then it will be time to discuss it based on his performance,we should be discussing who we can get to bolster the off line,thats where the problem is
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Old 11-25-2004, 11:47 PM   #7
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Let Gibbs spend some time with Ramsey, he'll be much better for it. Dump Brunell and trade Gardner. Renegotiate Samuels way down.
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Old 11-26-2004, 12:34 AM   #8
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Redskins fans sure are impatient cock-a-doodles. I say, trade nothing keep the team intact.
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Old 11-26-2004, 03:59 AM   #9
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Tup crazy crazy crazy
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:33 AM   #10
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I say that if we can resign everyone and still stay under the cap with the new TV Contract then we do that. Unfortunately, it will probably take some renegotiations with current contracts and players. Brunell is the first one to come to mind. Trading or cutting him would be pointless. We would take a huge cap hit on him and also have to find another QB. If we could get him to renegotiate or retire..that would be ideal. But I don't see either happening. Brunell knows that his career is over and has no pride and he will sit on the bench for the next few years until we finally can afford the cap hit. But I don't really blame Brunell too much, he is only doing what most NFL players do nowadays. Most washed up'd players would rather sit the bench and take a huge paycheck rather than negotiate or retire. It's all about the $.

The ideal scenario would be for all the Skins players who aren't playing up to their expectations and paycheck to give one up for the team. What I mean by this, is that they need to volunteer for a contract negotiation. And I don't mean dropping them to the league minimum, just reduce their contract enough for the Skins to make room for some more talent. I know I am living in a dream world and this is probably the dumbest thing I have ever said..but that would be the best situation. Players seem to be playing more for the $ and not for pride anymore and yes Skins have players that are guilty of this too. It is starting to look to me as if a large quantity of players would rather play a 16 game season, not go to the playoffs, and still receive a huge paycheck. Even though they say they want to win...their play doesn't always show it.

I know my feelings could be way off on this..but everytime a RB or QB signs a new multimillion dollar contract..then you have every other RB or QB with similar stats looking at them and saying they want the same thing.

Ok, I have gotten completely off topic and long winded again as usual and I am sorry for that. Truthfully, the cap situation is beyond any of our control and I just hope that some of the players step up and do what is right.
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Old 11-26-2004, 08:11 AM   #11
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Keep our QB's. Sign a nasty o-lineman that can stay onsides.
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Old 11-26-2004, 09:04 AM   #12
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I would say keep the team, for the most part, intact. We need to do something on the offensive live, and getting Jansen back and healthy will improve 100%. He's our best player, hands down. The only places I would look now, is possibly Bettis and have a 1-2 punch with a true bruiser of a back. Get rid of Brunell in the least expensive way possible. Pick up Brees, Dilfer, Kitna or Fiedler and let Ramesy and the new QB fight for the job.

Minus a consistant QB and a decent offensive line, we have a really, really good team. Good depth at WR, great RB. Solid special teams play from Thrash. I'm not ready to blame the WRs for inconsistancy because I don't think anyone would open themselves up over and over again for injury to chase down Brunells ducks, and Ramesy hasn't had a true chance with the system. I mean, his 1st 2 starts are going to be Philly and Pittsburg. Funny enough though, if we can eek out a win against the Steelers (I think we match up well against them) and Philly at home (as long as the offense can score some points) we have a realistic playoff shot as our other games are Dallas, San Fransisco, New York (G) and Minnesota in week 17, which given Minnesota over the last few years, is like a gimme game.

In the draft, I would get Marcus Spears (DE) from LSU
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Old 11-26-2004, 10:41 AM   #13
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definitely get rid of brunell, trade gardener for picks and call me crazy if you want to but I say trade arrington, the skins have had the #1 defense pretty much all year without him, he seems to be hurt alot the past couple seasons and IMO he has not lived up to his potential
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Old 11-26-2004, 11:20 AM   #14
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no way do the skins trade arrington. he's been the best defensive player the skins have had since he was drafted. as far as him living up to his potential, i think he has, espacially when you consider he hasn't played for the same d-coordinator since he's been here ( 5 in 5 years ). he is also a leader on d, he's a game breaker, he creates turnovers, he's a pro-bowler. the skins d is good without him and their keeping the games close but with arrington the d would be great and possibly winning games rather than just keeping them close. no way do we trade arrington.
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Old 11-26-2004, 12:02 PM   #15
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I just don't think Brunell is going anywhere. If we cut him after July 1, we are going to have to eat 6-7 million in dead cap room in 2006, when most of the salaries on the team will escalate.

I am not sure if we would trade Samuels right now, but I don't think its a terrible idea. He hasn't really lived up to his salary.

Gardiner should definately be traded. He has been dropping passes since he got here and I'm just sick of it.

Ramsey is not going to be traded. There is just no way its going to happen.
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