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Old 10-12-2010, 10:25 AM   #31
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I was disgusted yesterday listening to the Sports Reporter and how they were just straight out bitching about DT being cut and saying how DT gets cut but AH gets "coddled".

I wish DT luck, Carolina is just not a good team and they need to go into major rebuilding mode.
Had DT made a name for himself as a major player in this league with any kind of trade value, I think we would have coddled him as well. Unfortunately most unproven wideouts are like lottery scratch-offs.
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:28 AM   #32
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Had DT made a name for himself as a major player in this league with any kind of trade value, I think we would have coddled him as well. Unfortunately most unproven wideouts are like lottery scratch-offs.
Agreed. I mean the comparison was just stupid, even one of the other guys in that show was saying how it was ridiculous to say that AH was "coddled" let alone bringing Haynesworth into the conversation. I swear, they just bring him up for no f'ing reason. Ugh, I hate that show!! (yeah yeah, I don't know why I even turned it on).
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:46 AM   #33
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Devin Thomas is either going to sink or swim in Carolina, nothing in between. They have no choice but to throw him out there and use his talent in making plays. This is a desperate signing for a desperate team. They have no names in their receiver corps aside from Steve Smith, who is questionable for Week 7 as it is. And to top it off, they have 2 inept quarterbacks, and if Tony Pike gets any snaps during the bye week, he could be starting come Week 7.

Devin Thomas was given plenty of chances here in Washington to establish himself. He rubbed Shanny the wrong way and never got out of the doghouse. He could very well be another stud receiver that the Redskins blew their chance on. However, considering no one (The Pats traded back for Deion Branch for pete's sake) wanted to take a chance on him, I don't see it happening that way.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:14 AM   #34
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Not sure about that. Thomas isn't carrying 2 DWIs with him
As far as wasted potential, Jarrett and Thomas are likely very similar ON the field.
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Devin Thomas is either going to sink or swim in Carolina, nothing in between. They have no choice but to throw him out there and use his talent in making plays. This is a desperate signing for a desperate team. They have no names in their receiver corps aside from Steve Smith, who is questionable for Week 7 as it is. And to top it off, they have 2 inept quarterbacks, and if Tony Pike gets any snaps during the bye week, he could be starting come Week 7.

Devin Thomas was given plenty of chances here in Washington to establish himself. He rubbed Shanny the wrong way and never got out of the doghouse. He could very well be another stud receiver that the Redskins blew their chance on. However, considering no one (The Pats traded back for Deion Branch for pete's sake) wanted to take a chance on him, I don't see it happening that way.
Actually,from what I understand,the Patriots had put in a claim for D.Thomas,but Carolina had dibs on claiming him 1st.

In other words...If he wasn't playing for Carolina,he would be a Patriot now...
Then the Patriots went a head and traded for Branch for the 4th round pick.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:19 AM   #36
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As far as wasted potential, Jarrett and Thomas are likely very similar ON the field.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:50 PM   #37
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Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...
Wally Kleine?? Not exactly household names are they?
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Bob Slater, Tory Nixon, Walter Murray, Wally Kleine, Raphel Cherry, Carl Powell, Andre Johnson (granted he was post Gibbs 1 but during Casserly)...
I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.
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"Fantasia, Devin Thomas Flirt On The "Bittersweet" Music Video Set" from Fantasia For Real 2 | Show Clip | VH1.com

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I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.
You can put Norv in there too. He was the one that wanted Shuler. Everyone was to blame including Gibbs who said Howard had "no weaknesses". And Shuler didn't even play in a pro offense in college. Worst pick ever besides Leaf and Russell. Say what you want about Charley but he left Snyder with a playoff team.
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I have a perfect example of how a scheme and how a guy is used is HUGE for receivers...

Brandon Lloyd.

What an insane year he is having... ridiculous thus far...
You don't know that. Maybe BL has grown up and is actually trying to be a better player and it has nothing to do with what scheme he is in. We all knew he had talent but it seemed he never really tried and I'm guessing thats wht has changed. The whole BL example is kind of getting old because its a poor example at best.
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Old 10-12-2010, 01:33 PM   #42
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DT is going to a good situation for him. A rebuilding project. If he would've went to NE they would've cut him within 3 weeks.
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I think people forget how bad Casserly was. Go back and look at the #1 draft choices from 1993-1998. He hit with Champ Bailey, had some success with Kenard Lang, but aside from that Casserly whiffed quite often. And while Gibbs called the shots from the '89 season on, Charlie had a hand in the selection of Bobby Wilson and Desmond Howard too.

He was good with the old Plan B free agents, but his drafts were often horrid.
Casserly's Plan B free agent signings were a significant factor in the '91 Super Bowl season. Perhaps his greatest draft was his last as a GM for Houston in 2006. He netted 4 strong starters (DE Mario Williams, LB DeMeco Ryans, OT Eric Winston, and TE Owen Daniels). He deserves credit for resisting the temptation to draft Reggie Bush or Vince Young over Williams, who clearly turned out to be the best player from that draft.
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Wally Kleine?? Not exactly household names are they?
Exactly.
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You can put Norv in there too. He was the one that wanted Shuler. Everyone was to blame including Gibbs who said Howard had "no weaknesses". And Shuler didn't even play in a pro offense in college. Worst pick ever besides Leaf and Russell. Say what you want about Charley but he left Snyder with a playoff team.
Casserly also stockpiled three first round draft picks after the 1999 Division Championship season. After trading two of those to move up the board, the Skins drafted Arrington and Samuels at #2 and #3 overall, both very solid when you consider that Courtney Brown went #1 and Peter Warrick went #4.

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