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Old 10-18-2010, 04:39 PM   #151
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Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy

I find it very hard to believe AH didn't see it coming, or didn't have any sort of communication with the coaches throughout the week.
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Old 10-18-2010, 04:43 PM   #152
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I'm not gonna question whether Shanny was wrong or right to deactivate Haynesworth. I'm looking forward to playing Chicago, and barring injury or something unforeseen like a trade before tomorrow, Haynesworth will be ready to play and will be in the lineup, and hopefully for the rest of the season as well.

Why bother questioning who's wrong or right about it anymore? It's not gonna change the result of the Colts game. Let's just hope he's in the lineup against Chicago.
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:47 PM   #153
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So that makes it ok?
Not at all. Just saying that affected the YPC.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:15 AM   #154
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Lively thread!

Bottom line: we have the worst defense in the league. That's doubly important because last year we were top 10 and arguably a piece or 2 from elite. Sooooo...anything and everything the FO and coaching staff has done w/ the defense is suspect. Everything!!! Shanny historically has struggled to pick winners on defense (coaches and players) AND he let's his ego/pride get in the way.

So far what I see are flashes out there. Trent. Torrain. Landry. Orakpo. But defensively it's hard to argue this regime has done anything but screw the pooch when you consider where we were just a year ago.
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Lively thread!

Bottom line: we have the worst defense in the league. That's doubly important because last year we were top 10 and arguably a piece or 2 from elite. Sooooo...anything and everything the FO and coaching staff has done w/ the defense is suspect. Everything!!! Shanny historically has struggled to pick winners on defense (coaches and players) AND he let's his ego/pride get in the way.

So far what I see are flashes out there. Trent. Torrain. Landry. Orakpo. But defensively it's hard to argue this regime has done anything but screw the pooch when you consider where we were just a year ago.
Honestly, regardless of the defense we have, our offense is still not good enough to compliment whatever the defense can do. Even by giving up a ton of yards and dropping 4 (or 5) picks, the defense still gave our offense a lot of opportunities to win the game.

Ideally, I think last year's defense with the slightly improved offense of this year would be the ideal situation, but that's just wishful thinking.
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Lively thread!

Bottom line: we have the worst defense in the league. That's doubly important because last year we were top 10 and arguably a piece or 2 from elite. Sooooo...anything and everything the FO and coaching staff has done w/ the defense is suspect. Everything!!! Shanny historically has struggled to pick winners on defense (coaches and players) AND he let's his ego/pride get in the way.

So far what I see are flashes out there. Trent. Torrain. Landry. Orakpo. But defensively it's hard to argue this regime has done anything but screw the pooch when you consider where we were just a year ago.
I believe that we're only 2 players from being an elite D, even in the 3-4. Give Haslett a stud nose tackle and a playmaking LB to complement Orakpo, and we may be about there. Haynesworth could have been the first ingredient, but hasn't demonstrated a willingness to get with the program for the greater good. He can still be a strong contributor, but you can bet that Shanny will run him out of town before next season.
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I believe that we're only 2 players from being an elite D, even in the 3-4. Give Haslett a stud nose tackle and a playmaking LB to complement Orakpo, and we may be about there. Haynesworth could have been the first ingredient, but hasn't demonstrated a willingness to get with the program for the greater good. He can still be a strong contributor, but you can bet that Shanny will run him out of town before next season.
Haslett's scheme, along w/ his history, is too suspect for me to agree here. I know Blache was boring defense, but you have to consider his units spent tons of time out there in large part because our offense has been so anemic the last few years. Given more rest Blache's D would have been more potent and probably generated a few more turnovers.

Honestly, Blache's scheme w/ Landry @ SS and a legit FS would have been scary.

Our D line is terribly weak w/o AH playing...sooo we're at least a couple/few players short right there. Then help at LB and FS. Compare that picture of 4 to 6 new talented players needed presently to just a player or 2 needed in the 4-3...

If the defense isn't back to top 10 or 5 next year I will have to say the regime effed up royally. As the zen master says...we'll see.
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I believe that we're only 2 players from being an elite D, even in the 3-4. Give Haslett a stud nose tackle and a playmaking LB to complement Orakpo, and we may be about there. Haynesworth could have been the first ingredient, but hasn't demonstrated a willingness to get with the program for the greater good. He can still be a strong contributor, but you can bet that Shanny will run him out of town before next season.
Given the crazy formations that Haslett showed, the Redskins need a true NT. Not a pass rushing NT like Ratliff, but we need a massive 350+ lbs, true 3-4 NT, who's low to the ground and can just plug the hell out of the middle of the opponents offensive line.
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Anyone who thinks Blache would have lasted this year are kidding themselves. You think Blache would even bother to expand the playbook? They've got two years of film on him to look at what he runs. Hell, Kevin Gilbride always seemed to be one step ahead of him every stinking game. I remember when one time when Blache called an all out blitz and Gilbride had called a screen to Ward.
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Re: Was Shanahan Wrong Deactivating Haynesworth vs. Indy

still, the bigger question to me, is why wasn't he on the sideline with the team? I don't get that part.
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still, the bigger question to me, is why wasn't he on the sideline with the team? I don't get that part.
Well Shanahan said that most of the inactive players weren't down on the sidelines. That the coaches just keep a couple the players one the sideline to help the team. First I've heard if it quite honestly
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