#22 Rogers!

Monkeydad · 10-19-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.

INTs may increase, but fumbles would skyrocket.

This is what they need:

Carlos' only hope so be a turnover force is if they start using these:

skinsfan69 · 10-19-2010, 02:00 PM

It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.

Monkeydad · 10-19-2010, 02:07 PM

Yes, but catching the ball IS part of his job.

If he were a LB, it would be less of an issue...but INTs are part of what a DB is SUPPOSED to do.

This would be like a catcher who can't throw the ball...like Jorge Posada who only throws out 14% of base-stealers. Yes, he's great at other parts of his game, but his one big issue does end up costing the team far more often than it should. Makes for a tough decision for the team.

Longtimefan · 10-19-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble.

Thanks SM for the explanation. I wasn't sure I could actually express what I wanted to say about the play and make it make sense.

Mattyk · 10-19-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.

So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?

skinsfan69 · 10-19-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?

At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.

SmootSmack · 10-22-2010, 01:55 PM

This isn't a stat I would have expected Rogers and Revis to share

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According to STATS LLC, Rogers has failed to come down with a league-high six "pickable passes" this season. He's had 10 since the start of 2009, tying him with Johnathan Joseph and Darrelle Revis for the most over that period.

Sports | Redskins CB Rogers can cover, still can't catch | Seattle Times Newspaper

Ruhskins · 10-22-2010, 02:10 PM

Ironically, playing Madden last night Carlos Rogers made a one-handed pick. If I could figure out how to save Madden highlights, I would have. Of course, Madden Carlos Rogers also proceeded to drop three INTs in that same game.

Mattyk · 10-22-2010, 02:13 PM

I haven't bothered looking but Rogers should have the worst hands in the game in Madden.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 10-22-2010, 02:32 PM

He has a 35 catch rating

Mattyk · 10-22-2010, 02:39 PM

Should be in the negatives LOL

I always laugh when he snags a pick or two in a game.

SirClintonPortis · 10-22-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.

They just provide extra stress on the fans in their own ways. I don't unequivocally like either. Rogers could have changed many games for the better, but he did not make the plays.

sportscurmudgeon · 10-24-2010, 12:07 AM

Most - - not all to be sure but most - - defensive backs are players who cannot catch the ball well. If they were reliable catchers, they would be WRs. DBs have comparable speed to WRs; they are agile like WRs. Other than the fact that WRs tend to be a bit taller on average than DBs, the most significant difference between the players who man those positions is the ability to catch a football reliably.

Carlos Rogers is an extreme example of this point - - but it is true for well more than half the DBs in the NFL.

10-19-2010, 02:00 PM	#32
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: #22 Rogers! It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.

10-19-2010, 02:07 PM	#33
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,884	Re: #22 Rogers! Yes, but catching the ball IS part of his job. If he were a LB, it would be less of an issue...but INTs are part of what a DB is SUPPOSED to do. This would be like a catcher who can't throw the ball...like Jorge Posada who only throws out 14% of base-stealers. Yes, he's great at other parts of his game, but his one big issue does end up costing the team far more often than it should. Makes for a tough decision for the team. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

10-22-2010, 02:10 PM	#38
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: #22 Rogers! Ironically, playing Madden last night Carlos Rogers made a one-handed pick. If I could figure out how to save Madden highlights, I would have. Of course, Madden Carlos Rogers also proceeded to drop three INTs in that same game. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

10-22-2010, 02:13 PM	#39
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: #22 Rogers! I haven't bothered looking but Rogers should have the worst hands in the game in Madden. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-22-2010, 02:32 PM	#40
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,010	Re: #22 Rogers! He has a 35 catch rating __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

10-22-2010, 02:39 PM	#41
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,722	Re: #22 Rogers! Should be in the negatives LOL I always laugh when he snags a pick or two in a game. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-24-2010, 12:07 AM	#43
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: #22 Rogers! Most - - not all to be sure but most - - defensive backs are players who cannot catch the ball well. If they were reliable catchers, they would be WRs. DBs have comparable speed to WRs; they are agile like WRs. Other than the fact that WRs tend to be a bit taller on average than DBs, the most significant difference between the players who man those positions is the ability to catch a football reliably. Carlos Rogers is an extreme example of this point - - but it is true for well more than half the DBs in the NFL. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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