Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst

CRedskinsRule · 10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

Good: Ace will change his ridiculous sig
Bad: Ace HAS to change his ridiculous sig

Lotus · 10-18-2010, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Positives:
-60 minutes of effort and committed football, a welcome change from the past decade-plus.
-Torrain getting more comfortable and effective.
-Rak still causing problems in opponents backfields. Cutler is soiling his shorts right about now because he knows that it's gonna be a long Sunday next week.
-We're done with the QB gauntlet part (Vick, Rodgers, Manning) of our schedule. I think our schedule gets easier from this portion and most 'analysts' would have had us at 1-5 at this point in the season so I am optimistic about our season.
-Lo Ax is a beast. He's well on his way to becoming a franchise favorite because of his effort and what he represents.
-Landry continuing at mostly an All Pro level. He's still a sucker for a play-fake but he's playing great.

Negatives-
-Kyle's play calling in the red zone. I don't know why he always seems to get cute in the red zone. In short yardage let's either man up or run simple routes. Pump left, spin and throw right is fine on the 30, not the 3.
-Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. Man, he has the worst hands on a human. Yeah, I get the argument that at least he's in position to make the plays but you have to MAKE THE PLAYS! At least 30% of the time, damn man-you're a pro!!!
-Cooley's concussion. While I love seeing Davis getting more time, Cooley's a proven commodity and we need his production.
-McNabb's decision making. I have been pretty hands off in my criticism of him, but his last 2 throws (4th and 10 bomb & last pick) were ones that seemed like major forces.

** Bonus negative **-Cris Collinsworth. Everything he says just annoys the sh*t out of me. Manning is already annoying but listening to Collinsworth stroke him for calling out a snap cadence for 3 hours was just friggin torture.

I would add a smackdown on Al. TWICE he mentioned the Larry Johnson/Willie Parker backfield. But that never was the story. The story of our backfield going back to the spring has been the emergence of Torain and Williams.

It bugged me that national sports people missed this story line all summer. But to bring up the wrong story line in October, TWICE? Lame Al, lame.

Mattyk · 10-18-2010, 11:25 AM

They also mentioned once again all the coaches we've had under Snyder.

And what's up with announcers that struggle with Orakpo? I think CC said Orapko more than a few times. Is it really that hard to say??

Lotus · 10-18-2010, 11:31 AM

Rich Bartel would have thrown for 3,000 yards and 30 touchdowns in the first quarter alone.

Bring back Bartel!

over the mountain · 10-18-2010, 11:35 AM

Worst:
linebackers in coverage - it seemed to me that manning was picking us apart with the underneath stuff, passing for 8-13 yards at ease to wide open guys. i dont know if this was a result of our linebackers doing a poor job of reading routes and dropping back or if blame should be placed elsewhere (haslett's scheme, ?)

Best:
special teams keep us in the game more than we deserved.

mlmpetert · 10-18-2010, 11:37 AM

You know, i made peace with the fact that Carlos cant catch about 1-2 years ago so its not something that i realyl get upset about anymore. He would be a top 5 corner, maybe a top 3 corner in this league if he could catch so its not like he sucks and cant catch, its just that he cant catch.

My biggest goat from this game was Kareem Moore. He just played horrible all around last night and made several key big mistakes, in addition to his piss poor tackling last night. Not tackling well pisses me off more than anything.

Remember against the Rams when CP stopped playing in the second half after playing awesome, that’s kind of how I felt about Torrain disappearing for a long period last night. Our running game looked awesome last night, then all of a sudden it changed for some reason and KS started to get cute. Play calling was upsetting at times. What was awesome about Gibbs was that when things worked you could pretty much expect more of the same, until it stopped working. I guess id rather have stuff stop working then have things that seem to be working stop prematurely.

I don’t know what to think about our defense still. We give up all sorts of yards each week, but we also get turnovers and held the Colts to 27 (which could have easily been 33+ if not for missed field goals and turnovers). Is it better to keep offenses, like Manning’s, off the field or is better to give up yards and get more turnovers? Were giving up more points than we have in the past, but not by a lot so I look at that as equal. Id personally like to see a lot more 4-3 looks.

I cant stand Chris Collisnworth either. In fact the whole Football Night in America cast sucks, besides Al Michaels.

Sellers looked great last night, I honestly thought he couldn’t block anymore and he proved me wrong.

Trent Williams is a player. Tough dude.

Ryan Torrian is fun to watch, I wish we used him more and threw some passes at him.

Great clock management by Shanahan last night. This is really something we havent seen since before Gibbs 2.0, 6 years ago.

Anthony Armstrong knows how to run routes.

over the mountain · 10-18-2010, 11:39 AM

yeah good call on clock management at the end of the game, that and Buchanon having a D great series to force a 3 n out gave us 2 bites at the apple.

mlmpetert · 10-18-2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They also mentioned once again all the coaches we've had under Snyder.

And what's up with announcers that struggle with Orakpo? I think CC said Orapko more than a few times. Is it really that hard to say??

Right! But somehow he got Kory Lichtensteiger perfectly. I dont think i ever knew how to pronounce his name until last night. Ive forgoten since, but last night i said it outloud a few times perfectly.

mlmpetert · 10-18-2010, 11:42 AM

Yeah Buchanon looked great last night.

Monkeydad · 10-18-2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Good: Torain overall
Bad: Torain on the edge a couple times. he doesn't run well in space

Good: second to last 3 & out when Buchanan & LL made plays.
Bad: That series looked like we were in a base defense playing man to man. Could they have played that way all or most of the game? This defense has some personel & scheme issues & I think it all starts w/the lack of a solid NT. Notice that Kemo wasn't in much if at all.

Torain had several nice runs on sweeps. Yeah he's more effective when running OVER people, but he showed he can run around them too.

Jontrem · 10-18-2010, 11:48 AM

The worst for me at least the maddening inconsistency on offense and the odd play calling
The Best was how hard our D continues to hit everyone they see! (however I was nervous as hell for J Addai, dont like him as a player but it looked like he was going have a serious head or neck injury, was very happy to see him able to get up and walk off the field)

SmootSmack · 10-18-2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus

I would add a smackdown on Al. TWICE he mentioned the Larry Johnson/Willie Parker backfield. But that never was the story. The story of our backfield going back to the spring has been the emergence of Torain and Williams.

It bugged me that national sports people missed this story line all summer. But to bring up the wrong story line in October, TWICE? Lame Al, lame.

But that is part of the story. It's not just that Torain and Williams have emerged, it's that they surpassed two proven veterans to get there. Which is what Michaels basically said.

redsk1 · 10-18-2010, 11:59 AM

Best:
The fake toss to Banks and the TD throw
Run blocking for Torain
Torain breaking tackles, running hard
Being competitive w/ the team we fielded against Manning
Philip Buchanon played well

Worst:
Winning the turnover battle and not winning
Torain not running the correct play a few times

Mattyk · 10-18-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But that is part of the story. It's not just that Torain and Williams have emerged, it's that they surpassed two proven veterans to get there. Which is what Michaels basically said.

Yeah I didn't have a problem with that. They outlasted a couple of well known guys, that's worth pointing out.

Takeuon · 10-18-2010, 12:26 PM

Torain played with guts and showed he's capable of taking it to another level.
Our special teams stepped up and kept us in the game when it could have swung towards a blow out.

My criticism of McNabb was flamed upon in the game thread. But I stand behind my opinion that he just made some poor decisions that cost us. Sorry but I don't blame it all on play calling. After reading this thread I see some share in my sentiment.
I like McNabb and i believe we are where we are due to his leadership but sometimes he makes some throws that make you go hmmm

10-18-2010, 11:22 AM	#31
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10-18-2010, 11:25 AM	#33
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,689	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst They also mentioned once again all the coaches we've had under Snyder. And what's up with announcers that struggle with Orakpo? I think CC said Orapko more than a few times. Is it really that hard to say?? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-18-2010, 11:31 AM	#34
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst Rich Bartel would have thrown for 3,000 yards and 30 touchdowns in the first quarter alone. Bring back Bartel! __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

10-18-2010, 11:35 AM	#35
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,670	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst Worst: linebackers in coverage - it seemed to me that manning was picking us apart with the underneath stuff, passing for 8-13 yards at ease to wide open guys. i dont know if this was a result of our linebackers doing a poor job of reading routes and dropping back or if blame should be placed elsewhere (haslett's scheme, ?) Best: special teams keep us in the game more than we deserved. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

10-18-2010, 11:37 AM	#36
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,207	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst You know, i made peace with the fact that Carlos cant catch about 1-2 years ago so its not something that i realyl get upset about anymore. He would be a top 5 corner, maybe a top 3 corner in this league if he could catch so its not like he sucks and cant catch, its just that he cant catch. My biggest goat from this game was Kareem Moore. He just played horrible all around last night and made several key big mistakes, in addition to his piss poor tackling last night. Not tackling well pisses me off more than anything. Remember against the Rams when CP stopped playing in the second half after playing awesome, that’s kind of how I felt about Torrain disappearing for a long period last night. Our running game looked awesome last night, then all of a sudden it changed for some reason and KS started to get cute. Play calling was upsetting at times. What was awesome about Gibbs was that when things worked you could pretty much expect more of the same, until it stopped working. I guess id rather have stuff stop working then have things that seem to be working stop prematurely. I don’t know what to think about our defense still. We give up all sorts of yards each week, but we also get turnovers and held the Colts to 27 (which could have easily been 33+ if not for missed field goals and turnovers). Is it better to keep offenses, like Manning’s, off the field or is better to give up yards and get more turnovers? Were giving up more points than we have in the past, but not by a lot so I look at that as equal. Id personally like to see a lot more 4-3 looks. I cant stand Chris Collisnworth either. In fact the whole Football Night in America cast sucks, besides Al Michaels. Sellers looked great last night, I honestly thought he couldn’t block anymore and he proved me wrong. Trent Williams is a player. Tough dude. Ryan Torrian is fun to watch, I wish we used him more and threw some passes at him. Great clock management by Shanahan last night. This is really something we havent seen since before Gibbs 2.0, 6 years ago. Anthony Armstrong knows how to run routes. __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

10-18-2010, 11:39 AM	#37
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,670	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst yeah good call on clock management at the end of the game, that and Buchanon having a D great series to force a 3 n out gave us 2 bites at the apple. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

10-18-2010, 11:42 AM	#39
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,207	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst Yeah Buchanon looked great last night. __________________ https://constitutionminute.hillsdale.edu/episode1

10-18-2010, 11:48 AM	#41
Jontrem Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 608	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst The worst for me at least the maddening inconsistency on offense and the odd play calling The Best was how hard our D continues to hit everyone they see! (however I was nervous as hell for J Addai, dont like him as a player but it looked like he was going have a serious head or neck injury, was very happy to see him able to get up and walk off the field)

10-18-2010, 11:59 AM	#43
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst Best: The fake toss to Banks and the TD throw Run blocking for Torain Torain breaking tackles, running hard Being competitive w/ the team we fielded against Manning Philip Buchanon played well Worst: Winning the turnover battle and not winning Torain not running the correct play a few times

10-18-2010, 12:26 PM	#45
Takeuon Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 573	Re: Redskins-Colts, Best and Worst Torain played with guts and showed he's capable of taking it to another level. Our special teams stepped up and kept us in the game when it could have swung towards a blow out. My criticism of McNabb was flamed upon in the game thread. But I stand behind my opinion that he just made some poor decisions that cost us. Sorry but I don't blame it all on play calling. After reading this thread I see some share in my sentiment. I like McNabb and i believe we are where we are due to his leadership but sometimes he makes some throws that make you go hmmm __________________ #21 Will always be missed. Gone but not forgotten

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