What's up with all this Mike Vick talk?

irish · 11-08-2010, 08:43 AM

There's a log jam at QB in Philly as they have 2 legit starters. I wouldnt be surprised if Philly decides 1 will be the starter and moves the other.

To answer the question do I want MV here? No, he's a nice regular season QB but his run & throw style just doesnt win Super Bowls.

freddyg12 · 11-08-2010, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hagams

If we did, we wouldn't have to address the line as much

lol, but even after saying he was going to avoid hits he still stayed in bounds too long a few times yesterday. He's always been injury prone. He's likely to get hurt again.

Jontrem · 11-08-2010, 08:55 AM

I have to believe that the front office and shannahan are trying to change the culture of the team, they passed on numerous Diva WRs this year and I have to believe that has alot to do with what type of people they were (Holmes, TO, Moss, I don't know anything about Boldin other than he is tough as a coffin nail) so if that is true then no way we bring in Mike Vick AKA Ron Mexico. Plus he hurts marketing to a certain extent and Snyder wont let that happen.

SirClintonPortis · 11-08-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jontrem

I have to believe that the front office and shannahan are trying to change the culture of the team, they passed on numerous Diva WRs this year and I have to believe that has alot to do with what type of people they were (Holmes, TO, Moss, I don't know anything about Boldin other than he is tough as a coffin nail) so if that is true then no way we bring in Mike Vick AKA Ron Mexico. Plus he hurts marketing to a certain extent and Snyder wont let that happen.

Here is where fans get all moralistic when coaches couldn't care less.

Shanahan couldn't give a damn about off the field issues so long as on the practice field and gameday, you do your work. Brandon Marshall is the perfect example. Vick's issues are totally outside of football itself. He's not taking plays off, he's not skipping film practice, he's not displaying "laziness" of any sort with regards TO FOOTBALL.

firstdown · 11-08-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

There's a log jam at QB in Philly as they have 2 legit starters. I wouldnt be surprised if Philly decides 1 will be the starter and moves the other.

To answer the question do I want MV here? No, he's a nice regular season QB but his run & throw style just doesnt win Super Bowls.

If you said that about him while he was with the Falcons I would have agreed but MV is turning into a pocket passer that can also run. He is the number one rated QB in the NFL right now.

Chico23231 · 11-08-2010, 09:56 AM

Mike Vick is going to get an effing HUGE contract at the end of the year. Guy is playing lights out AGAIN. But I would pass on Vick...to much of an injury risk

SolidSnake84 · 11-08-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Mike Vick is going to get an effing HUGE contract at the end of the year. Guy is playing lights out AGAIN. But I would pass on Vick...to much of an injury risk

What has happened to Vick over his career to make you say that?? he got hit in the ribs this year...but I can't recall other than that where he missed serious time....definatley not like McNabb, who has missed at least 4 games a year in every season except 1 that I can think of...

SmootSmack · 11-08-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

What has happened to Vick over his career to make you say that?? he got hit in the ribs this year...but I can't recall other than that where he missed serious time....definatley not like McNabb, who has missed at least 4 games a year in every season except 1 that I can think of...

Think you're a bit off with your McNabb history

Chico23231 · 11-08-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

What has happened to Vick over his career to make you say that?? he got hit in the ribs this year...but I can't recall other than that where he missed serious time....definatley not like McNabb, who has missed at least 4 games a year in every season except 1 that I can think of...

well he missed almost an entire year due to injury one year 04 or 05...??? So yeah, if your a running QB, your an injury risk. I dont think you give a big contract to QB like that...

Chico23231 · 11-08-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Think you're a bit off with your McNabb history

And his Vick history.

firstdown · 11-08-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 44ever

Your a fool to argue with this^^^^ Like it or not Vick is a Great QB! My guess is he plays out the rest of his productive career as a Eagle.

Are you calling me a fool or the person who said MV is not that good?

irish · 11-08-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

If you said that about him while he was with the Falcons I would have agreed but MV is turning into a pocket passer that can also run. He is the number one rated QB in the NFL right now.

Vick is more of a pocket passer than he used to be but he still doesnt have the deft touch of a true passer. He is excellent at throwing long bullet passes to wide open receviers but I dont think he can throw a short touch pass very well. I'm still not sold on MV.

firstdown · 11-08-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

What has happened to Vick over his career to make you say that?? he got hit in the ribs this year...but I can't recall other than that where he missed serious time....definatley not like McNabb, who has missed at least 4 games a year in every season except 1 that I can think of...

I think MV missed a good part of a season with a broken foot in 2003 but other then that he has started every game except this year.

Michael Vick, QB for the Philadelphia Eagles at NFL.com

GTripp0012 · 11-08-2010, 10:51 AM

Vick has played better than Philly themselves expected of him, but I think people want to be careful before they anoint him Philly's franchise QB. The offense fits him like a glove and he looks very, very comfortable.

On the downside, he's still one of the most frequently sacked players in NFL history and that no-turnovers rate is certain to regress starting next week vs. us.

If there's any one area he's improved since his days as a Falcon, it's probably his running. He used to run for a lot of yards and big plays in the past, usually leaving passing opportunities on the table. This year he's running with a purpose and using his legs when the options downfield are less than ideal (i.e. not open), and he's extending drives with his legs which makes him a lot more difficult to defend.

This is also as accurate as I've ever seen him, which is obviously a bonus for Philly.

Chico23231 · 11-08-2010, 10:54 AM

Whatever happens, in this league of serious lacking of starting QB talent, Vick is going to get paid, big time. Whoever signs him will be taking a risk.

11-08-2010, 08:43 AM	#16
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,328	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? There's a log jam at QB in Philly as they have 2 legit starters. I wouldnt be surprised if Philly decides 1 will be the starter and moves the other. To answer the question do I want MV here? No, he's a nice regular season QB but his run & throw style just doesnt win Super Bowls.

11-08-2010, 08:55 AM	#18
Jontrem Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 608	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? I have to believe that the front office and shannahan are trying to change the culture of the team, they passed on numerous Diva WRs this year and I have to believe that has alot to do with what type of people they were (Holmes, TO, Moss, I don't know anything about Boldin other than he is tough as a coffin nail) so if that is true then no way we bring in Mike Vick AKA Ron Mexico. Plus he hurts marketing to a certain extent and Snyder wont let that happen.

11-08-2010, 09:56 AM	#21
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Mike Vick is going to get an effing HUGE contract at the end of the year. Guy is playing lights out AGAIN. But I would pass on Vick...to much of an injury risk __________________ Ready for the Draft.

11-08-2010, 10:51 AM	#29
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,143	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Vick has played better than Philly themselves expected of him, but I think people want to be careful before they anoint him Philly's franchise QB. The offense fits him like a glove and he looks very, very comfortable. On the downside, he's still one of the most frequently sacked players in NFL history and that no-turnovers rate is certain to regress starting next week vs. us. If there's any one area he's improved since his days as a Falcon, it's probably his running. He used to run for a lot of yards and big plays in the past, usually leaving passing opportunities on the table. This year he's running with a purpose and using his legs when the options downfield are less than ideal (i.e. not open), and he's extending drives with his legs which makes him a lot more difficult to defend. This is also as accurate as I've ever seen him, which is obviously a bonus for Philly. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

11-08-2010, 10:54 AM	#30
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Whatever happens, in this league of serious lacking of starting QB talent, Vick is going to get paid, big time. Whoever signs him will be taking a risk. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

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