What's up with all this Mike Vick talk?

Dread-Skin · 11-08-2010, 11:05 AM

Yeah, VIck has returned to his old form causing havoc. Theres no way the Eagles would want to seperate Vick/Desean Jackson. Thats a dynamic teams wish for. They struck gold.

Before anything else we need to find a Center, RT, and look at our Guard situation before we invest heavily in a QB.

I'll say this, I am a Vick fan 'ON THE FIELD' and I would welcome him as a Skin but the cost would be too high. We took the wrong Philly QB and we have to live with it for the rest of this season. Theres no long term plan with DM.

Joe Theisman had a note hanging in his locker, "You dont have to be the reason the team wins just dont be the reason why the team loses" I think if we revamp the OL and get some WR weapons and figure out a RB that will be upright all year and play the scheme which fits our personnel we can get back to winning and playing Skins football. Im eager to see the changes that will be made knowing what we know after a year under the Shannies. The NFC East is up for grabs if the SKINS would get it together.

SolidSnake84 · 11-08-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Think you're a bit off with your McNabb history

2009:missed 2 games
2007: missed 2 games
2006: Missed 6 games, placed on IR.
2005: Missed 7 games, placed on IR
2004: missed 1 game
2002: Missed 6 games

I was a bit off. There were 3 seasons where he played in every game.

mredskins · 11-08-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Vick has played better than Philly themselves expected of him, but I think people want to be careful before they anoint him Philly's franchise QB. The offense fits him like a glove and he looks very, very comfortable.

On the downside, he's still one of the most frequently sacked players in NFL history and that no-turnovers rate is certain to regress starting next week vs. us.

If there's any one area he's improved since his days as a Falcon, it's probably his running. He used to run for a lot of yards and big plays in the past, usually leaving passing opportunities on the table. This year he's running with a purpose and using his legs when the options downfield are less than ideal (i.e. not open), and he's extending drives with his legs which makes him a lot more difficult to defend.

This is also as accurate as I've ever seen him, which is obviously a bonus for Philly.

Per Peter King:

. Terrific nugget from Sunday morning's "NFL Matchup'' show: When Michael Vick was sandwiched five weeks ago and suffered a rib injury against Washington, a review of the coaches video found Vick should never have taken off to run. He had a crosser, from right to left, totally uncovered in the middle of the field and just never saw him. Great example of how Vick still doesn't see the whole field when he goes back to throw. For him to have a long career, he has to learn to scan the field better so he doesn't endure the kind of hits a quarterback is bound to receive if he takes off six or eight times a game, every week.

Read more: Browns, Vikings, Philip Rivers stand out in Week 9 - Peter King - SI.com

Monkeydad · 11-08-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dread-Skin

Yeah, VIck has returned to his old form causing havoc. Theres no way the Eagles would want to seperate Vick/Desean Jackson. Thats a dynamic teams wish for. They struck gold.

And ate garbage for the deal they gave Kolb right as the season started.

SmootSmack · 11-08-2010, 12:37 PM

Not sure what Boomer and Keyshawn said, but they could have been responding to what Clayton "boldly predicted" last week. Keep in mind, this is just Clayton speculating. He's not sharing any rumor or anything like that

Look for Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan to make a play for Michael Vick in 2011 - ESPN

Mattyk · 11-08-2010, 12:45 PM

Schefter's take on things is much more reasonable and level headed over these bold predictions.

12thMan · 11-08-2010, 12:49 PM

I have to believe that even if the Eagles franchise Vick, another team will match and exceed that offer to pry Vick away. I think Vick or Kolb is definitely gone next year.

SmootSmack · 11-08-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Schefter's take on things is much more reasonable and level headed over these bold predictions.

What'd he say?

Mattyk · 11-08-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What'd he say?

Just watch the video in your link

Monkeydad · 11-08-2010, 12:59 PM

Maybe they can off-load Kolb on a QB-desperate team like Seattle, Arizona or Carolina. They'll still take a bath financially though after giving him, what was it, $11 million this year?

SmootSmack · 11-08-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just watch the video in your link

Touche

I agree with you and Scheft

GTripp0012 · 11-08-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Per Peter King:

. Terrific nugget from Sunday morning's "NFL Matchup'' show: When Michael Vick was sandwiched five weeks ago and suffered a rib injury against Washington, a review of the coaches video found Vick should never have taken off to run. He had a crosser, from right to left, totally uncovered in the middle of the field and just never saw him. Great example of how Vick still doesn't see the whole field when he goes back to throw. For him to have a long career, he has to learn to scan the field better so he doesn't endure the kind of hits a quarterback is bound to receive if he takes off six or eight times a game, every week.

Read more: Browns, Vikings, Philip Rivers stand out in Week 9 - Peter King - SI.com

Well, yeah. I think he's more like old timey Michael Vick in more ways than people want to believe at this point. But I also think there's been legitimate (if not wholesale) improvement in the "when to runs" and "functional effectiveness while running" areas.

Vick's playing the best ball of his career, but his passing isn't really any more or less valuable than Kolb in the same offense. Obviously, when you have two quarterbacks throwing the ball at the same level, and one of them is duel-threat Michael Vick, then Vick needs to be the one who is playing. Which the Eagles know, apparently.

over the mountain · 11-08-2010, 01:42 PM

if vick comes to the skins i'd boo his punk ass and shanny and allen too.

skinsfan69 · 11-08-2010, 01:43 PM

Vick is only going to get better people. He's only had a few starts in this offense. He's one of the top rated passers this year and he's really making some serious stick throws. The guy can flat out spin the ball. Time will tell if he's truly going to put the effort in to take it to the next level. But he's really setting himself up for a big payday.

Mattyk · 11-08-2010, 01:47 PM

If Vick keeps playing like he is, how can the Eagles let him go?

11-08-2010, 11:05 AM	#31
Dread-Skin Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Towson area Posts: 288	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Yeah, VIck has returned to his old form causing havoc. Theres no way the Eagles would want to seperate Vick/Desean Jackson. Thats a dynamic teams wish for. They struck gold. Before anything else we need to find a Center, RT, and look at our Guard situation before we invest heavily in a QB. I'll say this, I am a Vick fan 'ON THE FIELD' and I would welcome him as a Skin but the cost would be too high. We took the wrong Philly QB and we have to live with it for the rest of this season. Theres no long term plan with DM. Joe Theisman had a note hanging in his locker, "You dont have to be the reason the team wins just dont be the reason why the team loses" I think if we revamp the OL and get some WR weapons and figure out a RB that will be upright all year and play the scheme which fits our personnel we can get back to winning and playing Skins football. Im eager to see the changes that will be made knowing what we know after a year under the Shannies. The NFC East is up for grabs if the SKINS would get it together.

11-08-2010, 12:37 PM	#35
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,095	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Not sure what Boomer and Keyshawn said, but they could have been responding to what Clayton "boldly predicted" last week. Keep in mind, this is just Clayton speculating. He's not sharing any rumor or anything like that Look for Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan to make a play for Michael Vick in 2011 - ESPN __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-08-2010, 12:45 PM	#36
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Schefter's take on things is much more reasonable and level headed over these bold predictions. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-08-2010, 12:49 PM	#37
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? I have to believe that even if the Eagles franchise Vick, another team will match and exceed that offer to pry Vick away. I think Vick or Kolb is definitely gone next year.

11-08-2010, 12:59 PM	#40
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 33 Posts: 14,884	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Maybe they can off-load Kolb on a QB-desperate team like Seattle, Arizona or Carolina. They'll still take a bath financially though after giving him, what was it, $11 million this year? __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

11-08-2010, 01:42 PM	#43
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,666	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? if vick comes to the skins i'd boo his punk ass and shanny and allen too. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

11-08-2010, 01:43 PM	#44
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? Vick is only going to get better people. He's only had a few starts in this offense. He's one of the top rated passers this year and he's really making some serious stick throws. The guy can flat out spin the ball. Time will tell if he's truly going to put the effort in to take it to the next level. But he's really setting himself up for a big payday.

11-08-2010, 01:47 PM	#45
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,652	Re: What's up with all this Mike Vick talk? If Vick keeps playing like he is, how can the Eagles let him go? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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