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Old 03-08-2011, 05:14 PM   #31
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Re: I think I found the next Tom Brady..

now thats some funny s right there. i feel for him, i'm a tall white guy who can't/doesn't dance as well, but seriously wtf was he doing?
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Old 03-08-2011, 05:43 PM   #32
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now thats some funny s right there. i feel for him, i'm a tall white guy who can't/doesn't dance as well, but seriously wtf was he doing?
what the ****

Tom is sad!!! That ***** must be made of gold
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:26 PM   #33
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so any quarterback with similar college stats is the next Brady? Stupid thread...
Looks it's no different then fans comparing the other positions to current players. All he's doing is pointing out the similarities.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:32 PM   #34
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Elway and Brady are the best QBs of all time to Me but again that for Another discussion
I'll agree with on Brady..... Elway is another story. HALF decent QB in the right place at the right time in the right system. I just don't see the fascination from actually watching him throughout all the years. Personally he looked and sounded like a he didn't have a clue.
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Old 03-08-2011, 06:41 PM   #35
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I agree, arm strength and mobility are the 2 most over-rated factors in QB evaluation. Lots of QBs have cannons but cant hit water from a boat. Dan Marino was exactly mobile but he did ok because he had pocket presence and knew when to get rid of the ball. Accuracy and smarts are the 2 most important things an NFL QB needs.
I'll agree with you but a half decent QB like Elway can look good as long as he has Receivers who will look and know to go up and fight for the ball. For whatever reason WR's need the ball placed right in their hands which means the QB needs to be accurate.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:48 PM   #36
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Re: I think I found the next Tom Brady..

First time I've ever heard anyone say Elway benefited from having the receivers he did
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:57 PM   #37
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Ricky Stanzi is the next Tom Brady, and other adventures in unfiltered coachspeak - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

Iowa QB echoes Tom Brady - BostonHerald.com


looks like I'm not the only one who's thought of this comparison...
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:33 PM   #38
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Ricky Stanzi QB, Iowa, I believe will be the next Tom Brady. Why?
If you look at their stats they are almost identical to when Brady was in college, let me list off some of their similarities:

- Both played in the Big Ten
- Both have almost identical winning records
- Both led their teams to major bowl wins and were named MVP
- Both have the same knock on them coming out of college to the pros; "Good arm, highly accurate, highly intelligent, frail framed, winning QB's"
- Both are 6'4, 210-ish lb's
- Both have alright, but not highly touted NFL, receivers to throw to in college
- (Even though Stanzi still has a few more games to play) their touchdown to interception ratio is almost identical.
- they both take what the defense gives them.
- they both played in NFL systems in college
- they both are graded in the later rounds of getting drafted
- they both kind of look alike


Now is Ricky going to be exactly like Tom Brady? No most likely not, but theres definitely a good chance that he ends up being almost as good, and he's definitely worth a draft pick in the 2nd round range IMO.

And being that Shanahan right now isn't too satisfied with McNabb we may take a chance on a guy like this in the draft, especially if we're looking at all these other college QB's right now (Locker,Luck). The one thing Stanzi is which Brady isn't; More mobile, he runs a 4.8 forty.
Whose Tom Brady?

But seriously, Colt Brennan.... maybe some guys aren't made for the next level.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:22 PM   #39
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Whose Tom Brady?

But seriously, Colt Brennan.... maybe some guys aren't made for the next level.
I didn't know Colt Brennan had similar numbers as Tom Brady? I guess he did since you mentioned him. Wow. Yep your right not everyone pans out.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:40 PM   #40
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I didn't know Colt Brennan had similar numbers as Tom Brady? I guess he did since you mentioned him. Wow. Yep your right not everyone pans out.
LOL- Idk, I was attempting to poke at CultBrennan for the irony of finding another "TOM BRADY" when in fact he is a Colt Brennan fan. Colt of course great in college but lacking the next level skill to pan out unlike Tommy who seems to had a mediocre Michigan career but of course is waist deep in....

not sure if were clear on that. Hey what about this Alvin Worthaynes I hear this guy is a team player.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:14 AM   #41
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As a mid-round prospect I like Stanzi also but any time you say that you found the next Tom Brady you should expect some pushback and rightfully so.

But, there are some similarities that I see both wear 12 both played in a pro-style offense both have a classic over the top throwing motion.

Anyway here's some evals I did on Stanzi last year:
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I like Stanzi too especially since he could be available in outside the 1st 2 rounds.
Here's my take:
Ricky Stanzi is not any type of real threat to run nor does he have a big time arm.
He lacks the physical superlatives like a Locker or Newton.
But he has proto-typical NFL frame, decent arm (i hope he throws at the combine), good production/efficiency (almost on par w/ Luck) and comes from a pro-style offense.
Nice compact throwing motion w/ a quick release.
[SIZE=1](although and this is just a nit-pick he sometimes holds the ball kinda low and very very rarely seems to pat the ball or hitch his delivery)[/SIZE]
Good footwork 3-5-7 step drop back foot hits the ground the balls out.
Has a clean drop back, sets his feet, and throws from a solid base.
He moves well in and out of the pocket and can throw on the run.


What's your assessment?
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I think these were from last year.
B/c looking at "youtube" film from this year i don't see most of the above flaws.
nepatriots.com mentions-

throwing from the pocket mechanical flaws-but his footwork especially looks very sound and consistent i see good weight transfer and his feet seem light.

Again this must be a review from last year b/c its hard imo to reconcile locking onto a receiver/fitting the ball in tight spaces/decision making need work when you consider his production from this year:

64.8 comp %
8.65 YPA
25 TDs
4 INTs
160.5 Efficiensy rating

In the pros?
He reminds me of Marc Bulger-Matt Schaub type QB.
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First time I've ever heard anyone say Elway benefited from having the receivers he did
You don't remember all the stud wide receivers he played with? They totally made him.
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First time I've ever heard anyone say Elway benefited from having the receivers he did

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Old 03-09-2011, 12:29 PM   #44
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I didn't know Colt Brennan had similar numbers as Tom Brady? I guess he did since you mentioned him. Wow. Yep your right not everyone pans out.
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Career Passing: 1115 Cmp, 1584 Att, 14193 Yds, 131 TD
Career Rushing: 267 Att, 547 Yds, 2.0 Avg, 15 TD
Career Scoring: 15 TD, 4 2PM, 98 Pts

Tom Brady:

443 completions on 711 attempts, 5351 yards, and 35 touchdowns with only 19 interceptions. He also rushed for 3 touchdowns.

Actually Colt had much better stats!
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PEFORMANCE PER ATTEMPT – A 300-yard passing game in 30 pass attempts, is that not similar to a 200-yard passing game in 20 attempts?…or more to the point a 400-yard game in 40 attempts? It's all still 10 yards per pass attempt? For that matter 2 passing TDs in 20 Pass Attempts is the essentially the same performance as 3 passing TDs in 30 Pass Attempts. Colt Brennan and Graham Harrell should not have an advantage over Tom Brady because they throw 40+ times a game and compile bigger stats. We look at Passing yards, Passing TDs and INTs through the lens of the number of completions and attempts...not game compilations. Quality, not quantity.
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