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Old 12-02-2004, 07:33 PM   #1
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off season cuts&additions

i think chad morton is gone,so is barrow(like he ever played),ray brown is history.
if ramsey screws up as bad as brunnell did,do you think both of them will be cut?
please give your input.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:03 PM   #2
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[QUOTE=BIGREDSKINFAN63]i think chad morton is gone,so is barrow(like he ever played),ray brown is history.
if ramsey screws up as bad as brunnell did,do you think both of them will be cut?

morton will prolly be gone, barrow will stay, brown is gone, hard to say what gibbs is gonna do about ramsey and brunnel, i also think samuells will stay, smoot will stay, coles will stay, gardner will be traded for whatever we can get. some of the backup defensive players ( peirce, marshall, etc. ) could be trade bait to upgrade other areas.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:07 PM   #3
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Have people forgotten that the only reason Ray Brown is here is because of Jon Jansen's injury? Ray Brown may be gone next year, but its not like he was an overpaid bust.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:08 PM   #4
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Morton= Gone
Barrow will still be here I think.
R. Brown is out
Gardner is PROBOLY gone
I think Ramsey as long as he is content down the stretch is more than ok. Brunell will proboly be fine too because of his contract.
Gotta work somthing with Samuels too.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:09 PM   #5
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why cut pierce? he's been playing amazing football.

Ramsey has been trippling Brunell's performance and he's gone against decent Ds. I want to see him against a team like the Giants.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:15 PM   #6
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why cut pierce? he's been playing amazing football.

i don't think they'll cut him, i was just thinking maybe using him in a trade to upgrade a different position, just a thought but your right he has played great
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:22 PM   #7
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We should keep Pierce and Marshall since both have played really well. I expect to get some flak for saying this but we should keep Ray Brown and use Samuels and Gardner in a trade. Perhaps we can get someone like Kurt Warner or Drew Brees along with a draft pick. I would use our first pick on either an offensive lineman or a receiver.
Our defense is good enough as is. No need to get rid of many (if any) players there; let the current guys grow together. Our needs lie at qb, wr, and offensive line. Gibbs won't likely draft a qb in the first or second rounds, so we should be looking for the best lineman or receiver available in the draft and trading for a qb.
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Old 12-02-2004, 09:24 PM   #8
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First of all we can't trade Pierce because he is a free agent.
Morton Gone
Bowen Gone
Brunnel should be gone, we need to get rid of his salary as fast as we can.
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Old 12-02-2004, 10:24 PM   #9
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Morton & Gardner gone. May as well cut Barrow also since the LB's have done fine without him. Ramsey definitely still here but I think his performance down the stretch may determine to some extent whether or not he starts next year.
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morton is a possibility but that won't happen til sometime in training camp I think after they find someone their comfortable with being the prominent return man.
gardner is gonna stay around for another year unless someone offers a 3rd or better for him.
ramsey's gone for whatever we can get for him unless he proves during the last few games that he deserves to be our qb of the future.
if we can find a way, brunnel's gonna be gone.
I agree that there's a big possibility of samuels getting traded if he doesn't rework his contract for us.
wynn has to rework his contract or he's gone.
Hopefully Smoot is here next year but don't be suprised that if we can't offer what he's looking for, that he gets tagged(if we can) and we get a 1st and a 2nd rounder for him.
and if mike williams isn't there when it comes to our selection in the draft, trade down, garner more picks, and draft bralin edwards from michigan or one of the top olineman available.
anyone know of any high quality centers in the draft this year?
and whomever believes bowen is gone obviously didn't see how much Greg williams loved using him near the line of scrimmage while he was healthy.
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:04 PM   #11
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no kurt warner
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Old 12-03-2004, 01:02 AM   #12
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And no Drew Brees..... i know there will be some disagreement with this one.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:32 AM   #13
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In regards to Morton, can we cut him if he's hurt or do we need to reach an injury settlement? I think Barrow will be back. I don't see us cutting Samuels with no-one who is ready to step in immediately. I see us adding depth on the OL and DL, plus some depth at TE. I don't think that this will be a typical Redskins offseason with splashy signings and a whoel bunch of money spent.

Why do some posters think that Garder has no trade value? He is a (somewhat) proven #2 reciever, he has 2 1,000 yd seasons and was a #1 pick a couple of years ago.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:35 AM   #14
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Question QB situation

Obviously we have needs at the o-line, but what about our qb situation? I know Gibbs doesn't favor using young qbs (we probably wouldn't draft higher than the third round if we picked one) but do you think he'll stick with Ramsey and Brunell? I think Ramsey MIGHT be the qb of the future, but like someone else said, he needs to prove himself over these last few weeks. Brunell seems to be washed up, but we probably won't get rid of him because of that mega contract. Tim Hasselbeck is a good backup in my opinion.
I agree that Brees isn't a good option for us (he doesn't seem like a Gibbs qb) but what about Warner? When given enough time, he is very accurate. I expect the o-line's pass protection to significantly improve by next year and he might be a good acquisition if we can get him cheap. Maybe it would be best to stick with the guys we have now and let Ramsey develop. Interested in hearing somebody else's thoughts on this issue.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:42 AM   #15
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And no Drew Brees..... i know there will be some disagreement with this one.
No new QB's, period.

Stick with Ramsey as the starter, Brunell the #2 and Hasselbeck as #3.
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