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Old 11-17-2010, 03:45 PM   #1
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Something to consider about the defenses performance

In 2008, Jim Zorn and the Redskins were riding sky high as they went into Pittsburgh. The offense was performing well and we were winning close games. Then, we faced a real quality opponent who figured out the offense and stonewalled us. In short, they got film on the coach and his tendencies.

I believe that the same thing may happen to Haslett. He's going to get figured out and our performances will be like Denver's circa 2008. We're going to be coughing up 21 points at the very least from here on out.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:48 PM   #2
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

That is a scary, but salient point.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:53 PM   #3
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

Haslett has been a DC in this league a long time. I don't see what the Eagles did to indicate their performance was more about "figuring out" the scheme than it was from some super individual efforts.

Vick had an incredible night and just threw some pinpoint passes that were practically indefensible. And we know what he can do with his legs. That's what it boils down to for me.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:33 PM   #4
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Haslett has been a DC in this league a long time. I don't see what the Eagles did to indicate their performance was more about "figuring out" the scheme than it was from some super individual efforts.

Vick had an incredible night and just threw some pinpoint passes that were practically indefensible. And we know what he can do with his legs. That's what it boils down to for me.
Yes, and what did he do in that long time? How about running the Pittsburgh defense, which was a top unit under Lebeau then, into land of the mediocre.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:39 PM   #5
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

I agree that teams have figured out our D, figured out that there are usually big gaps between the cb & safeties, and that our pass rush is nothing to worry about.

I don't think it's much of an analogy to compare it to Zorn in 08, that team had half a season of success. This defense was getting gashed in the second game of the year & it's continued. I know that they held some teams scoring down, so they deserve credit for that, but the only team that was surprised by them was dallas in week 1.
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

Interesting to note: Lebeau's D was ranked 11th in 1996, Haslett took over and they finished 7th in 1997.
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

i havent noticed us using the same D schemes and formulas game in and game out.

if anything, ive noticed that week to week we adjust our D scheme to the opponent. sometimes the adjustments are huge.

i think Haslett just got burnt running soft zone with the corners in an attempt to keep the corners watching and in position to contain the outside if vick scrambled that way. (i read this else where and while i havent seen any actual proof to this notion it makes sense to me)

this next game against tenn, who knows what kind of D we roll out. i like it.
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In 2008, Jim Zorn and the Redskins were riding sky high as they went into Pittsburgh. The offense was performing well and we were winning close games. Then, we faced a real quality opponent who figured out the offense and stonewalled us. In short, they got film on the coach and his tendencies.

I believe that the same thing may happen to Haslett. He's going to get figured out and our performances will be like Denver's circa 2008. We're going to be coughing up 21 points at the very least from here on out.
Our D is pretty much rated last what is there to figure out?

Boy if teams figure out our O then we are really in trouble.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:15 PM   #9
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

One major point that I completely disagree with in this thread is to say the NFL has figured out our defense would some how imply our defense under Haslett was actually good at some point and playing well. It has not. Our performance on the field as it relates to playing sound defensive football with good technique and playing well together as unit has not happened folks.
We have been last or next to last statistically all year. ALL Season our defense has done the tell tale things that bad defense do..like give up close to or over 5 yards a carry and giving up massive yards overall. Being weak against the run. Mental mistakes and breakdowns have been a problem. I am not saying we are terrible. But we do not play well consistently for any long periods of time. We are very inconsistent.
The only thing good we can point to is we have created or generated more turnovers than years prior.
Haslett is on the hot seat. Plain and simple. It is his job to lose and he is losing it.
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Interesting to note: Lebeau's D was ranked 11th in 1996, Haslett took over and they finished 7th in 1997.
and they lost Rod Woodson, Deon Figures, and Chad Brown to free agency after 1996
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Re: Something to consider about the defenses performance

I think Haslett probably made a name for himself by the players he had on other teams, not for any special talent he has. I've seen the way he lines up his defenses and it's nothing like Rickie Petitbon did with less talent. You could see the impact that Petitbon had when the 'Skins always made defensive corrections at halftime that won games for them. All I see Haslett doing is standing pat with a defensive scheme that is giving up tons of yards. I've never seen a worse Redskins defense.
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Our D is pretty much rated last what is there to figure out?


Boy if teams figure out our O then we are really in trouble.
They.............Haven't figured out our O???
OMG........
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I think Haslett probably made a name for himself by the players he had on other teams, not for any special talent he has. I've seen the way he lines up his defenses and it's nothing like Rickie Petitbon did with less talent. You could see the impact that Petitbon had when the 'Skins always made defensive corrections at halftime that won games for them. All I see Haslett doing is standing pat with a defensive scheme that is giving up tons of yards. I've never seen a worse Redskins defense.
That is exactly my issue with Haslett. It seems like we are always reacting and trying to put out fires as opposed dictating to the offense.
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Our D is pretty much rated last what is there to figure out?

Boy if teams figure out our O then we are really in trouble.
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Our D is pretty much rated last what is there to figure out?


Boy if teams figure out our O then we are really in trouble.
They.............Haven't figured out our O???
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