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Old 11-18-2010, 02:11 PM   #16
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

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I'd like to see Austin called up as well, but it sounds as though Galloway has been demoted to the bottom of the WR depth chart from what I hear, Roydell has moved up to Galloway's spot and Banks will get significant snaps.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:15 PM   #17
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we can't cut galloway or r williams, they both run great routes and are amazing in practice and drills

on a serious note i would really like to see what austin can do in a real game. and i don't think it would be crazy to make a move like cutting galloway and bringing austin up. are we in the hunt for the playoffs right now, yes. do we really have anything to lose by cutting dead wieght like williams and galloway
and bringing someone else in, no.

seriously what would the big deal with having someone else besides galloway out there. can anyone name 3 meaningful plays galloway has made this year? i rest my case
There was the time he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off, then there was the time he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off, and finally that time when he gave up on a route and the ball was picked off
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:28 PM   #18
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Funny thing is Galloway was never known for his routes to begin with, he was always more of a speed guy on go routes.

At this point he's more than proven his worthlessness here. I too would like to see Austin, or just about anyone we've got not named Galloway.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:34 PM   #19
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

I just want to see Banks run a few screens from the triple WR stack set. I am pretty sure he would break off a few.
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Old 11-18-2010, 03:49 PM   #20
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".
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The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.
Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".
Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:10 PM   #22
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Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...
Good point. K. Williams was on the PS a while too. Shanny has made somewhat erratic decisions w/moving players on & off the PS.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:42 AM   #23
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

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There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".
It's not so much that the practice squad players are not as good as the active roster players, it's that the active roster players have more experience and can pick up the offensive plays a lot quicker than someone wide eyed and straight out of college. It's quit possible that the practice squad players at this point in the season are ready to play.

I too would love to see Austin brought up. We could get younger rather quickly if our practice squad players can contribute.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:02 AM   #24
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Also, some guys can be "stashed" on the practice squad. Austin can sit on the practice squad, and unless some other team wants to take a flyer on an unproven talent, then he's basically safe. Galloway is either on the team or he isn't.

So, Austin can be on the field thru the week, train, practice etc, and at some point move up, but Galloway if cut is gone. Now at this point I think it is fair to say, well he ought to be gone, but in the early part of the season one can think that he would have given more stability to a immature receiving corps.
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Based on that idea we would have never have seen Ryan Torian or Anthony Armstrong, who where both practice squad players. There are other reasons why some players don't make it to the active squad... Draft position, contract, etc. There is no reason that Jon Beck shouldn't be a Practice squad guy, other then his draft status and contract. I think these moves would help the team move forward. not back...
Based on his time in Miami I don't believe Beck is PS eligible.

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a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:37 AM   #26
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Now this about Galloway:

Redskins Insider - Coaches not pleased with Joey Galloway's play Monday

It's pretty dumfounding to the avg. fan; a guy that we think for weeks shouldn't be on the field, yet now over halfway through the season the coaches are finally on him (though he was demoted from #2 to 3 for AA). He must be making it on his practice habits, influence on the youngsters, etc.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:43 AM   #27
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Also, some guys can be "stashed" on the practice squad. Austin can sit on the practice squad, and unless some other team wants to take a flyer on an unproven talent, then he's basically safe. Galloway is either on the team or he isn't.
This is one of the biggest reasons young players stay on the practice squad for a full season. Coaches want to groom them, get them trained on the playbook, prepare them for the following season, all the while keeping them on the team.

It is not uncommon around the NFL for a player to spend a full year on the practice squad, then compete for, and win, a roster spot the following preseason. It is a great tool to develop young players into the scheme you run.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:52 AM   #28
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Now this about Galloway:

Redskins Insider - Coaches not pleased with Joey Galloway's play Monday

It's pretty dumfounding to the avg. fan; a guy that we think for weeks shouldn't be on the field, yet now over halfway through the season the coaches are finally on him (though he was demoted from #2 to 3 for AA). He must be making it on his practice habits, influence on the youngsters, etc.
When you're beating teams like the Eagles and Packers it's much easier to overlook the on field errors and recognize his value to the team with his "veteran intangibles" when you lose to the Lions and give up close to 60 to the Eagles, it's not as easy. We should have kept Bobby Wade over Galloway in my humble opinion, not that he would have been a savior either
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

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Now this about Galloway:

Redskins Insider - Coaches not pleased with Joey Galloway's play Monday

It's pretty dumfounding to the avg. fan; a guy that we think for weeks shouldn't be on the field, yet now over halfway through the season the coaches are finally on him (though he was demoted from #2 to 3 for AA). He must be making it on his practice habits, influence on the youngsters, etc.
Practice, man. It's all about practice. "Practice good, and we'll love you" is the Shanahan mantra. Taylor Jacobs would have been god to them.
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I'd like to see Austin called up as well, but it sounds as though Galloway has been demoted to the bottom of the WR depth chart from what I hear, Roydell has moved up to Galloway's spot and Banks will get significant snaps.
Yeah I'd really like to see Austin. One thing we lack on this team is speed, aside from Banks. Let's try to get these two on the field on offense. Couldn't be any worse than having Galloway out there.

I know Banks is tiny and fumbling is a concern, but a guy with speed like that, we've got try to find ways to get him the ball other than special teams.
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