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Old 11-19-2010, 01:31 PM   #31
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

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When you're beating teams like the Eagles and Packers it's much easier to overlook the on field errors and recognize his value to the team with his "veteran intangibles" when you lose to the Lions and give up close to 60 to the Eagles, it's not as easy. We should have kept Bobby Wade over Galloway in my humble opinion, not that he would have been a savior either
True, but even in our wins the passing game hasn't looked good overall. There have been bright spots, but not an overall good game other than the Houston loss. And Galloway has been a part of that.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:08 PM   #32
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

As little of production as the Skins are getting out of Galloway AND R.Williams, I'd say cut both and bring up whatever WR's we have on the PS.

What troubles me most is at any other position if someone is not producing they are benched, ie; McNabb, Haynesworth, RB's that have come and gone. But Galloway who produces so little is allowed to suit up week in and week out. How about treating Galloway like one of the other WR's or RB's that have come and gone and cut him.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:43 PM   #33
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

James Davis
Terrance Austin

that's IT ! .. don't get crazy .. we are 4-5 .. let's see what happens this week .. 5-5 your telling me we are done ? 4-6 doesn't even mean your done
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:37 PM   #34
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Promoting Brandon Banks and Ryan Torain from the practice squad worked out well. I want to see Austin and Davis promoted next. If we continue to freefall in the standings, Shanny may as well promote Capers and Cook to see whether they are good fits for his zone blocking scheme.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:58 PM   #35
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Patrick Turner just got promoted to the Jets active roster. There is really no excuse for Galloway being on our active roster, none at all.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:07 PM   #36
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Re: Time to move up some practice squad players

Let me try to explain this differently:

If the coaches truly believe that there are players on the practice squad who are better than players on the active squad, there is really not a lot of incentive for the coaches to keep the practice squad players where they are.

Coaches live and die by the team's record. Coaches on teams that win 10-12 games every year rarely get fired; coaches on teams that lose 10-12 games every year usually get fired.

Therefore, keeping "superior players" on the practice squad and keeping "inferior players" on the field works against the coaches' best interests.

The players you pine for to be on the active roster will get there as soon as the coaches believe they are better players than the ones on the active roster. As of last Monday night, the coaches did not believe that to be the case.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:14 PM   #37
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Let me try to explain this differently:

If the coaches truly believe that there are players on the practice squad who are better than players on the active squad, there is really not a lot of incentive for the coaches to keep the practice squad players where they are.

Coaches live and die by the team's record. Coaches on teams that win 10-12 games every year rarely get fired; coaches on teams that lose 10-12 games every year usually get fired.

Therefore, keeping "superior players" on the practice squad and keeping "inferior players" on the field works against the coaches' best interests.

The players you pine for to be on the active roster will get there as soon as the coaches believe they are better players than the ones on the active roster. As of last Monday night, the coaches did not believe that to be the case.
You sometimes seem to struggle with the concept of fans chatting on a message board, don't you?
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:31 PM   #38
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There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".
This relies on the idea that the coaches are always right. I'm not saying we know more then the coaches, far from it, but I see this reasoning often. If coaches were always right they wouldn't get fired nearly as often as they do today. In fact one of the more common reasons as to why coaches get fired is misuse of personnel.

They're human, they make mistakes. It's more then possible that a guy like Austin deserves to be on the roster more then Galloway, yet some other factor besides talent could be serving as the difference between who's active and whos on the squad. In this case I think that Shanahan has simply wanted to make sure theres a veteran presence in the receiving corps. However after Mondays performance that could all be nothing more then a moot point.

Personally I'd like to find out if Austin can play. I don't want the team to have to look into wasting another early draft pick on what might be the second hardest position to project at the NFL level. Wide Receiver.
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Old 11-19-2010, 04:31 PM   #39
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You sometimes seem to struggle with the concept of fans chatting on a message board, don't you?
I want to start a thread titled "Time for the coaches to do what's in their best interests"
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:29 PM   #40
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Let me try to explain this differently:

If the coaches truly believe that there are players on the practice squad who are better than players on the active squad, there is really not a lot of incentive for the coaches to keep the practice squad players where they are.

Coaches live and die by the team's record. Coaches on teams that win 10-12 games every year rarely get fired; coaches on teams that lose 10-12 games every year usually get fired.

Therefore, keeping "superior players" on the practice squad and keeping "inferior players" on the field works against the coaches' best interests.

The players you pine for to be on the active roster will get there as soon as the coaches believe they are better players than the ones on the active roster. As of last Monday night, the coaches did not believe that to be the case.

So just what exactly is Galloway bringing to the table on the field? I couldn't care less what he's doing on the practice field and I'm not pining for some practice squad player to be activated, I'm just of the opinion that there has to be someone better, be it on the active roster or on the street/practice squad, than Galloway. Galloway has done nothing overtly that demands his being on the team let alone seeing the field.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:12 PM   #41
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So just what exactly is Galloway bringing to the table on the field? I couldn't care less what he's doing on the practice field and I'm not pining for some practice squad player to be activated, I'm just of the opinion that there has to be someone better, be it on the active roster or on the street/practice squad, than Galloway. Galloway has done nothing overtly that demands his being on the team let alone seeing the field.
Him being a vet and more experienced? It can't be his route running, his hands, or his blocking, because he hasn't excelled in any of those aspects this season.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:51 PM   #42
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I'd like to see Austin called up as well, but it sounds as though Galloway has been demoted to the bottom of the WR depth chart from what I hear, Roydell has moved up to Galloway's spot and Banks will get significant snaps.
Wow I'm really excited now that Roydell is now moved ahead of Galloway. I guess he can't do any worse that Joey has. I would like to see Austin get sometime on the active roster to see if he is worth bringing back next season. We did use a late rd draft pick on him.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:53 PM   #43
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In Williams' defense; he's a bigger wr & he plays on kick coverage team. Don't think Austin would be good there due to his size.
Your right Austin is not very big but we need a 3rd WR that can make plays on offense with our teribble 3rd down conversion rate. Give me youth and and athelticsim over a vet that is washed up.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:56 PM   #44
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There is a rather basic reason why there are players on the practice squad and other players on the active roster.

It's not all that complex but just in case it seems mysterious let me lay it out here:

The coaches - - the ones who see these guys in practice every day and the ones that are responsible for putting the team in the best position to win on a week-to-week basis - - think the guys on the practice squad are not as good as the guys on the active roster.

Now, if it is true that there are three or four guys on the practice squad who really are better than the guys on the active roster, then you have to indict the coaching staff and the guys who do "pro player evaluations" for the team for "getting it wrong".
You mean like Anthony Armstrong was on PS last season now he is 2nd wr and deep threat. I guess Zorn did not know talent either.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:31 AM   #45
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You mean like Anthony Armstrong was on PS last season now he is 2nd wr and deep threat. I guess Zorn did not know talent either.
Nah, ARE, Devin, Kelly, and Marko were just taking up space.
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