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Old 12-15-2010, 01:00 PM   #31
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I love Hunter the Punter, but I've got no problem with cutting him. He wasn't having a good year and at almost 40 years old he probably won't get much better. Plus you already know what you have in him and it's not like there's high demand for him.

With the team out of playoff contention, why not bring in a young guy see if he can be a factor not only as a punter but also maybe as a holder, and whether the overall kicking unit can benefit.

This is a no harm move
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:14 PM   #32
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Making a roster change ought to do something significant to imrove the team - - unless you are making the change as a result of an injury to a starter or unless you are making the change as a knee-jerk reaction.

Is this supposed to put the Fear of God in the rest of the roster with regard to on-field accountability? Give me a break. If on-field accountability mattered, at least a third of this roster would be looking for work in a warehouse by now. The players do not fear The Wrath of the Shanny any more now than they did a week ago.

Did the team get better? Maybe. But when you are expending effort tweaking the performance of your punter, normally the rest of the team is playing lights-out football. Here, we see yet one more PR move by the Skins. Special teams f*cked up a field goal so somebody has to be hung out to dry.

The famous scribe Billy Shakespeare had the line that best describes this entire matter in MacBeth (Act V, Scene V I believe):
Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing...
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:20 PM   #33
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I love Hunter the Punter, but I've got no problem with cutting him. He wasn't having a good year and at almost 40 years old he probably won't get much better. Plus you already know what you have in him and it's not like there's high demand for him.

With the team out of playoff contention, why not bring in a young guy see if he can be a factor not only as a punter but also maybe as a holder, and whether the overall kicking unit can benefit.

This is a no harm move

Yeah this is pretty much exactly how i feel. At first i felt like it was a knee jerk reaction to our loss, but as of today i started thinking well at this point in the season its more about finding guys that can be good for us in the future. I wouldnt mind seeing Durant Brooks brought back, wasnt Denver the other team big on him back in Shanahan's last year there?
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:23 PM   #34
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Making a roster change ought to do something significant to imrove the team - - unless you are making the change as a result of an injury to a starter or unless you are making the change as a knee-jerk reaction.

Is this supposed to put the Fear of God in the rest of the roster with regard to on-field accountability? Give me a break. If on-field accountability mattered, at least a third of this roster would be looking for work in a warehouse by now. The players do not fear The Wrath of the Shanny any more now than they did a week ago.

Did the team get better? Maybe. But when you are expending effort tweaking the performance of your punter, normally the rest of the team is playing lights-out football. Here, we see yet one more PR move by the Skins. Special teams f*cked up a field goal so somebody has to be hung out to dry.

The famous scribe Billy Shakespeare had the line that best describes this entire matter in MacBeth (Act V, Scene V I believe):
Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing...
dang SC, didn't think a Hunter the punter gets cut thread warranted Shakespeare!
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Old 12-15-2010, 01:50 PM   #35
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SC, it also may be warranted if you are out of contention (we are), the player cut is old/not going to be on the team next year(he is, and wasn't), and you want to explore other options(I guess they do).

I am sure I am just justifying, but in the end, this move wasn't a huge deal. Shame for HS though.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:52 PM   #36
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I think the Skins more than any other team has the worst luck of K/P in the past what?.,.. 7 years?

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Old 12-15-2010, 07:58 PM   #37
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Making a roster change ought to do something significant to imrove the team - - unless you are making the change as a result of an injury to a starter or unless you are making the change as a knee-jerk reaction.

Is this supposed to put the Fear of God in the rest of the roster with regard to on-field accountability? Give me a break. If on-field accountability mattered, at least a third of this roster would be looking for work in a warehouse by now. The players do not fear The Wrath of the Shanny any more now than they did a week ago.

Did the team get better? Maybe. But when you are expending effort tweaking the performance of your punter, normally the rest of the team is playing lights-out football. Here, we see yet one more PR move by the Skins. Special teams f*cked up a field goal so somebody has to be hung out to dry.

The famous scribe Billy Shakespeare had the line that best describes this entire matter in MacBeth (Act V, Scene V I believe):
Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing...
DO you not think that they believe (as I do) Hunter is NOT the punter and with a handful of essentially meaningless games left that a better time could not be chosen to evaluate some other possible answers at this and some other positions for next year?

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Old 12-15-2010, 10:37 PM   #38
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DO you not think that they believe (as I do) Hunter is NOT the punter and with a handful of essentially meaningless games left that a better time could not be chosen to evaluate some other possible answers at this and some other positions for next year?

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Actually, I believe that the Skins were perfectly satisfied with Hunter all along. If they were not, then at 4-3 - - with visions of the playoffs dancing in their heads - - they would have taken a look at an upgrade. There are always unemployed punters looking for NFL work; it isn't as if they needed to hire an executive search firm.

At 4-3, an upgrade to any position that you think is deficient makes sense in the context of a season full of meaning (potentially). The Skins made no such move.

At 5-8 and mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, changing your punter to look at new talent is like deciding whether or not to have dessert on the Titanic on that fateful night. It does not matter - - but for those around you it looks as if you are focused on what is in front of you.

I don't think Hunter Smith is a vital cog in the Redskins revival as a franchise by any means. Whether he stays or goes is irrelevant to 2011 - - and like it or not, 2010 has no importance anymore. At the same time, this move is nothing more than scapegoating and public relations nonsense. Even if his replacement is 8 yards better on average per punt - - that is a HUGE upgrade - - it will matter not even a whit.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:28 PM   #39
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I am not sure if you are suggesting that a good P game has little advantage over a poor punting game? I do not think that is the case. AND changing the punter in this late part of the season has no meaning for this season, but obviously could have significant meaning in the field position game for next season. It is a great time to audition any potential.....weapons in game situations under fire (rather than training camp scenario).
Additionally I find impossible to believe that our current FO staff would endorse such a childish and thinly veiled move as to hand over the punters head as penance for a loss. H the P is a problem and losing him is a good thing. Find out if someone else can play in "game situations"....now.
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Old 12-16-2010, 04:19 AM   #40
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I love Hunter the Punter, but I've got no problem with cutting him. He wasn't having a good year and at almost 40 years old he probably won't get much better. Plus you already know what you have in him and it's not like there's high demand for him.

With the team out of playoff contention, why not bring in a young guy see if he can be a factor not only as a punter but also maybe as a holder, and whether the overall kicking unit can benefit.

This is a no harm move
SS ,I will disagree here to me it sends the wrong message .....now had you cut the kicker that would hae been a message but the holder who had a high snap and a wet ball , yet you let Haynesworth get away with his BS alll year? This is like firing Shanahan for the screw up at the end of the first half that cost the Skins 4 points ,now if it happens alot ...ok I see the point.

Gano = 2 missed field goals ...6 points lost

Shanahan = bad time management ....4 points lost

Smith= miss handled a snap for xrta point...1 point

.....................and you cut Smith,sorry I don't get it?
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Old 12-16-2010, 07:24 AM   #41
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If I am not mistaking, I think they cut him because of his punts and mechanics were not to their liking.

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Old 12-16-2010, 11:02 AM   #42
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Its like a golfer firing his caddy because he keeps shanking his tee shot in the woods.
Not really, we just cut the guy doing the shanking.


I think we just have a special place in our hearts for Hunter the Punter from his TDs he scored in an otherwise debacle of a season. He was one of the few bright spots.

Sure he can run and pass, but he can't punt or hold...goodbye.
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The funny thing is, when we cut Sushiam last year he was the scapegoat and the guy we brought in was Gano, "to give another guy a look." He has gone on to lead the NFL in missed field goals. Fail.

Hopefully we have better luck with this guy, but probably not.

With mounting holes of talent in this team, Id like us to address the kicking/punting game finally. With the endless resource of money we pay for worthless talent in the past and present (albert), why not put this into special teams with a solid kicker and punter? Id think it would help the situation. It would be nice to have at least one area this team solid.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:29 AM   #44
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The funny thing is, when we cut Sushiam last year he was the scapegoat and the guy we brought in was Gano, "to give another guy a look." He has gone on to lead the NFL in missed field goals. Fail.

Hopefully we have better luck with this guy, but probably not.

With mounting holes of talent in this team, Id like us to address the kicking/punting game finally. With the endless resource of money we pay for worthless talent in the past and present (albert), why not put this into special teams with a solid kicker and punter? Id think it would help the situation. It would be nice to have at least one area this team solid.
I know every hole is important to fill and make better if we can, but I feel like as long as the OLine, DLine, are glaring needs, as well as pretty much every other position except TE, we need to work on those first. Think about how many plays a game your offense and defensive players are on the field versus Teams. Yes, Teams is important, but there's no point in having top players there if you have shit lines and nothing good going for most of your other positions.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:55 AM   #45
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I know every hole is important to fill and make better if we can, but I feel like as long as the OLine, DLine, are glaring needs, as well as pretty much every other position except TE, we need to work on those first. Think about how many plays a game your offense and defensive players are on the field versus Teams. Yes, Teams is important, but there's no point in having top players there if you have shit lines and nothing good going for most of your other positions.
Yeah, im not saying this is the priority over O or D lines, but look at the wasted expenses...a good kicker and punter in free agency are not that expensive. Your bang for your buck is better and worrying about fitting in to your system is not an issue.

It would be nice not to having a constant revolving door at the Punter/Kicker positions.
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