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Old 01-12-2011, 10:20 PM   #91
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I dont know if this has been posted in this thnread already,and this is not a knock against bradford,I think he's a good player,but I read a stat that said liike 89% of his passes were in the 10 yard range to limit the time he has to get sacked
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:28 PM   #92
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^ well when he has me and you at WR it makes it hard to throw down field lol plus their line isn't that good
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:45 PM   #93
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I dont know if this has been posted in this thnread already,and this is not a knock against bradford,I think he's a good player,but I read a stat that said liike 89% of his passes were in the 10 yard range to limit the time he has to get sacked
That is actually a pretty smart offensive idea. What better way to not only build a young QB's confidence and keep him healthy. That is what the OC for the Texans should have done for Dave Carr, and who knows, maybe Carr could have been something better...
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:58 PM   #94
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I dont know if this has been posted in this thnread already,and this is not a knock against bradford,I think he's a good player,but I read a stat that said liike 89% of his passes were in the 10 yard range to limit the time he has to get sacked
Offset it by the fact that he had the absolute worse receiving corps in the league. Now personally I think that receivers impact in general is extremely overestimated, but his receiving corps was a different type of bad. All I can say is it's very unfortunate that the Rams saw the light before draft day.
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I dont know if this has been posted in this thnread already,and this is not a knock against bradford,I think he's a good player,but I read a stat that said liike 89% of his passes were in the 10 yard range to limit the time he has to get sacked
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Brady was around 72%
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^ well when he has me and you at wr it makes it hard to throw down field lol
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:49 PM   #97
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From what I remember of Joe Montana and Steve Young they did the same thing. Rarely did you see them go deep, even though they were accurate when throwing the deep ball. That just wasn't their style of play. I can't count all of times when you saw everyone was covered, then you see them hit their check down receiver, either Craig, Rathman/Waters for a 10+ yard gain.
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From what I remember of Joe Montana and Steve Young they did the same thing. Rarely did you see them go deep, even though they were accurate when throwing the deep ball. That just wasn't their style of play. I can't count all of times when you saw everyone was covered, then you see them hit their check down receiver, either Craig, Rathman/Waters for a 10+ yard gain.
I'm pretty sure the Bill Walsh deliberately called it that way. Stretch the field horizontally in an age of unathletic LBs and the like. Use high percentage passes and methodically drive down the field. Before then, it was bombs away or nothing combined with a great running game.
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I'm pretty sure the Bill Walsh deliberately called it that way. Stretch the field horizontally in an age of unathletic LBs and the like. Use high percentage passes and methodically drive down the field. Before then, it was bombs away or nothing combined with a great running game.
The spread offense isn't much different, except now coaches are trying to figure out different ways to use various shotgun formations, particularly as it relates to the running game.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:02 AM   #100
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I think you guys are generalizing quite a bit in regards to Bill Walsh's WCO w/ Montana and Young.
Walsh WCO was a complete passing game 3-5-7 step drops they went deep quite often.
There WCO wasn't a 3 step heavy variety like Jon Gruden favors or like the Rams ran for Bradford.
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Brady was around 72%
Didn't read the article yet, but most passing offense get their efficiency by throwing short: screens, hitches, flat routes and drags.
They key is to also mix in intermediate and deep stuff.
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I think you guys are generalizing quite a bit in regards to Bill Walsh's WCO w/ Montana and Young.
Walsh WCO was a complete passing game 3-5-7 step drops they went deep quite often.
There WCO wasn't a 3 step heavy variety like Jon Gruden favors or like the Rams ran for Bradford.
I know Walsh had a use for all of those drop lengths. But the guy was just going by his imperfect memory, which was steeped with "short pass and YAC" with Young and Montana.

I just meant to say that it wasn't the QB's "style" or habits that made them appear to check down every time, but rather it was because Walsh called designed short passing plays.

I never saw those 49ers play in the time period, but I have read Walsh's playbooks and writings.
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:47 AM   #103
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One year in the league and he's already as system qb ... rams offense is 75% quick slants ... Bradford isn't as good as most of u think... but he is going to get better IMO and develop to be a better all around qb
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The Rams did a lot to protect Bradford, but that's the smart thing to do with a rookie. I think next year we'll see their offense open up a lot more.
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Old 01-13-2011, 09:20 AM   #105
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Brady was around 72%
ok thanks,thats what happens to a memory when you get old.Thats not the article I read and I didnt do the math but I didnt see anything about 74%.Yes it was a smart thing to do with Bradford.But when you see he attempted throws over 20 yards only 36 times in 590 attempts it seems kind of shocking to me,but its probably like that across the board
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