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Old 12-15-2010, 09:18 PM   #16
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Re: Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

should a pedophile who did his time be allowed to become an elementary school teacher?

you all are focusing on the fact that he is banned from owning a pet, putting your focus on the contrast btw the priority of a dog's life vs a human's life in our society.

im not saying any persons opinion on this is wrong but this punishment is not about dogs or animals. its about the criminal and his acts, not the victim. its about a person who plead guilty to facts which included the direct strangulation of a dog being held into a tub of water by Mike Vicks hands until it died. That he would take labs and poodles and throw them in a cage with a vicious pit so that pit can get his blood thurst on.

The reason Mike Vick can never have a pet for the rest of his life is b/c he did something repeatedly and knowingly that was so inhumane, cold hearted and insane that a life ban was appropriate, much like a pedophile at a school or a felon owning a handgun.

the punishment is about the criminal, not the victim.

with that said, i think as long as its not a pit or rot, i think it sounds like a great idea, to bad it aint happenin.

rbajnree - nice use of (seriously)
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:24 PM   #17
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should a pedophile who did his time be allowed to become an elementary school teacher?

you all are focusing on the fact that he is banned from owning a pet, putting your focus on the contrast btw the priority of a dog's life vs a human's life in our society.

im not saying any persons opinion on this is wrong but this punishment is not about dogs or animals. its about the criminal and his acts, not the victim. its about a person who plead guilty to facts which included the direct strangulation of a dog being held into a tub of water by Mike Vicks hands until it died. That he would take labs and poodles and throw them in a cage with a vicious pit so that pit can get his blood thurst on.

The reason Mike Vick can never have a pet for the rest of his life is b/c he did something repeatedly and knowingly that was so inhumane, cold hearted and insane that a life ban was appropriate, much like a pedophile at a school or a felon owning a handgun.

the punishment is about the criminal, not the victim.

with that said, i think as long as its not a pit or rot, i think it sounds like a great idea, to bad it aint happenin.

rbajnree - nice use of (seriously)

Great post. Although I disagree with the last statement. I don't think he should be allowed to have a dog period. Children are shown to be pliable and change behaviors. Adults are much more set in their ways. IHe would be back to killing dogs in a matter of time imo.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:40 PM   #18
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I don't think he should be a caregiver of any type....that includes people too.
This guy has a very violent background...the fact that they even let him play again is remarkable to me. The worst case scenario in coming back to the NFL was not that he would fail....it's that he would perform well and become a hero figure to the kids.
The NFL has too much of that already....think of a famous Raven and an ex buffalo bill RB off the top of my head.

Is the NFL so desperate for ratings that they needed to allow this guy on the field again?
What about all the wife beaters, etc?
What is the NFL saying....that it is ok to be violent, as long as you pay your dues you can come back?.....what kind of image is that.
Like it or not...NFL players become superstars and become role models to our kids who idolize them....if they learn their background, it normalizes the behavior.

I know most of you may not agree with me....(I'd love Vick's talent too)...but after much thought...I think the NFL should be much stricter with violent offenders than any other sport due to the violent nature of the game.
No ex convicts should ever be able to play the game again.....period.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:41 PM   #19
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Re: Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

I don't think there's anything wrong with him owning a dog at this point in his life. Comparing a man who ran a dogfighting ring to a pedophile is... Wow. Just a really really not great example in my opinion. A pedophile tends to be someone who has no control over his actions and cannot be rehabilitated. (At least I don't think so. Once a child molester, always a child molester). They often don't know what they're doing is wrong, although some do... and pedophiles have a high recidivism rate, meaning more than likely, they're going to end up reoffending at some point in their life.

In this case, Vick KNEW what he was doing was wrong, he has control over his actions, he served his time, did his community service and at this point in his career after being given a second chance and sitting at a potential Super Bowl appearance... He'd be a straight imbecile to screw himself up again. If anything I can understand Vick being banned from owning dogs historically bred to protect/fight (Pits or bully breeds, Rottweilers, Dobermans, etc) but I mean if the dude wanted... I dunno a golden retriever.. For example... Then he may be the first man to set up a golden retriever dogfighting ring, in the history of dog fighting.
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If he's closely supervised, sure a dog could help him as part of his rehab.

Some people are really going overboard here, as usual.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:08 PM   #21
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Maybe he can start with a chia pet and some sea monkeys and see how he handles those
Toss in a pet rock too and see how that works out...
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No ex convicts should ever be able to play the game again.....period.
Be careful. There's guys that have done worse than what Vick did that still played.
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Old 12-15-2010, 11:17 PM   #23
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So I guess it's a sure thing that Vick wants one just to kill one, since obviously, like a pedo, he just can't stop having that urge to kill dogs. It's scientifically proven.
hmmmmm
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'twas just a sarcastic recap of what was being spewed out by certain previous posters.
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Re: Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

You guys are hilarious, these threads always bring out the worst analogy's. He never killed his pets, he was involved in local culture that was acceptable to most in area but also against law. I honestly don't think he regrets his decisions just that he got caught, but to play in the NFL he has to act the part now.

Having a family pet has nothing to do with dog fighting, however if he opened up a kennel that would be different. The "i hope the dog turns against him and drowns him" is real classy.
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Here is a thought maybe we can lure him away from the Eagles next year if we promise him will we keep a box of puppies in the locker room.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:54 AM   #28
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Re: Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

Man I actually thought twice before starting this thread but reading some of the comments I don't regret it at all. Some of the comments are hilarious and some are actually pretty insightful.

Good job warpath community lol
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:51 AM   #29
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Re: Michael Vick Wants to Get a Dog (Seriously)

Controversy continues to hound Vick.
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You guys are hilarious, these threads always bring out the worst analogy's. He never killed his pets, he was involved in local culture that was acceptable to most in area but also against law. I honestly don't think he regrets his decisions just that he got caught, but to play in the NFL he has to act the part now.

Having a family pet has nothing to do with dog fighting, however if he opened up a kennel that would be different. The "i hope the dog turns against him and drowns him" is real classy.
You got to give him some props for scratching and clawing his way back to the top.
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