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Old 12-20-2010, 10:58 AM   #466
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I missed most of the game for a funeral which was a month after the person died but that another story. I did catch the last 10 min and when Moss dropped that pass I said thats going to cost us the game. Even if we didn't score we would have left Dallas with a longer field with no time left.
Moss has been our best WR for years and he is a great competitor, makes alot of plays BUT..... He always has that 1 drop every game that seems to haunt us! Sometimes you are just snake bit.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:06 AM   #467
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From the WaPo's resident provider of sunshine and lollypops Sally Jenkins:

The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
I guess we need our WR's to run their routs 5 yards shorter then normal and dive to the turf so they could be in position to catch his passes before they hit the ground.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:18 AM   #468
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From the WaPo's resident provider of sunshine and lollypops Sally Jenkins:

The word from inside Redskins Park was that the Shanahans have been frustrated for weeks by the fact that McNabb either couldn't or wouldn't absorb Kyle Shanahan's offense and make the correct reads, and that he only wanted to do the things that made him comfortable. His inflexibility limited the play-calling options, and his inconsistency too often put them in difficult long-yardage situations. Hence, he never improved in 13 games. Those judgments now seem correct.

The word from the McNabb side is that the Shanahans didn't do enough to accommodate his improvisational talents, that Kyle Shanahan still has a lot to learn that he didn't do enough to make the freelance-happy McNabb more effective, and also protect him from sacks behind a vulnerable line. Perhaps a valid point, given that Grossman was sacked five times.
The bolded quote seems like it could have been word for word from an AH story. I get Shanahan's point, he knows football, and he's going to win his way. He's the coach, but it does also go back to the square peg round hole issue that has plagued the Skins.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:20 AM   #469
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Moss has been our best WR for years and he is a great competitor, makes alot of plays BUT..... He always has that 1 drop every game that seems to haunt us! Sometimes you are just snake bit.
That drop might've been the difference, but was anyone else seriously annoyed that there were NO running plays called on that drive? We were starting to open holes & Torain got some nice runs. There were 4 plus minutes left & we could've slowly moved the ball downfield. Instead we played into dallas' hands w/mid to long dropbacks & they responded w/blitzes.
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Old 12-20-2010, 11:27 AM   #470
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That drop might've been the difference, but was anyone else seriously annoyed that there were NO running plays called on that drive? We were starting to open holes & Torain got some nice runs. There were 4 plus minutes left & we could've slowly moved the ball downfield. Instead we played into dallas' hands w/mid to long dropbacks & they responded w/blitzes.
Yep, I agree. I was wondering where the heck was Torrain/Williams, heck anyone??? A good methodical march down was IMO a better option than passing every down like we seemed to do.

But hey, it's evaluation time, and we want the better draft pick anyway.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:57 PM   #471
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Maybe since Grossman started to get in a groove passing the ball in the 2nd half, they wanted to stay with it?
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:05 PM   #472
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Maybe since Grossman started to get in a groove passing the ball in the 2nd half, they wanted to stay with it?
True, and I know they were "evaluating" him, but in the previous scoring drives they gave the ball to Torain a few times & it was working. they were mixing it up well. Even Moose commented on how little they were running the ball.

I know it's easy to criticize play calling when things don't go well, but I thought up to that last drive the balance was good. that second to last drive they not only went all pass, they didn't do anything to even show the potential to run. Dallas brought guys off the edge unblocked.
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Old 12-20-2010, 05:07 PM   #473
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I dont really think the play calling has been bad, perhaps it's just that DM5 was bad at running the offense. For all we know, the same plays are being called and we look great because Rex actually knows what he is doing...
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Old 12-20-2010, 05:56 PM   #474
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I dont really think the play calling has been bad, perhaps it's just that DM5 was bad at running the offense. For all we know, the same plays are being called and we look great because Rex actually knows what he is doing...
I'm referring to the drive in which we had the ball tied 30-30 w/4+ minutes left. We didn't look "great" as it ended w/2 sacks in a row. I was disappointed in that drive that there were no runs called & that the formations seemed to tip dallas that it was pass. They brought a blitz off the edge & we had no one to pick it up.
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The bolded quote seems like it could have been word for word from an AH story. I get Shanahan's point, he knows football, and he's going to win his way. He's the coach, but it does also go back to the square peg round hole issue that has plagued the Skins.
SmootSmack said that that was the first time he has heard of that when I noted that, which got me thinking that Jenkins may be cooking things up, but then again...maybe it is true.
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SmootSmack said that that was the first time he has heard of that when I noted that, which got me thinking that Jenkins may be cooking things up, but then again...maybe it is true.
Wait, what did I say exactly?
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:32 PM   #477
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The bolded quote seems like it could have been word for word from an AH story. I get Shanahan's point, he knows football, and he's going to win his way. He's the coach, but it does also go back to the square peg round hole issue that has plagued the Skins.

So true regarding your geometry comparison. I have been extremely frustrated with waiting until late into the 4th quarter for Donovan to self-ignite a flame up his rear trying to win the game.

Question to me is: Can you teach an ole dog new tricks? It's time to move on.
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