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Old 07-06-2011, 01:37 PM   #76
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Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.

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There will be plenty of time for front offices around the league to consider Asomugha.
First off, no team is even permitted to pursue a free agent until the end of the current NFL year, March 5th I think. So no team can even approach Asomugha until that date.

Also, the current CBA extenstion EXPIRES in March. If there is not a new CBA in place, then there is a lockout.

I also suspect that free agents around the league will abstain from signing any new contracts until a new CBA is in place, since that agreement will most certainly address veteran defintiions and salary caps as well as a rookie wage scale.

And those of you dreaming of a league WITHOUT a salary cap? Dream on, that is first and foremost on the owners agendas is that salary cap. Without a salary cap, the owners will proceed with a lockout.

So plenty of time for teams to consider Asomugha.

Also, can you imagine what the "market price" will be for a DB this year now that both Asomugha and Champ Bailey are Free Agents?

Wow.
You guys need him in the worst way. Your secondary is god awful.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:04 PM   #77
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Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.

Don't think he'll end up here. Price is too high, not sure he's a good fit for our style of 3-4 defense, some depth in the corner market, and they might do something crazy and play Kevin Barnes...nah, as good as Nnamdi is, I don't see us backing up the Brinks truck for him.
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:10 PM   #78
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If people have Really been following the whole Nnamdi thing, you should know:

- The new imposed Salary cap will hurt a team like the cowboys and not effect the redskins. the cowboys can sign Nnamdi if they don't bother resigning doug free and release Terrance Newman, but stephen jones has said that they intend on resigning doug free as their top priority.

-Houston Is in the running, I don't see anywhere where Nnamdi says he doesn't want to play there, They with a good QB and amazing WR and great running back gives them a great championship contending offense, it's just the huge question mark of a defense they have, being that they have money and a CB need, Nnamdi is definitely an option that is very possible.

- The Raiders will not resign him because he hates al davis and his unwinning ways.

- The Jets are a possibility, but only if he signs at a lower rate than what he's asking...not going to happen. Contender wise, it could happen.

- The Eagles want him, but have back up plans (Ike Taylor) if they can't get him/he outprices himself for them.

- The redskins have been named a possibility for a while now. Shanahan loves him from the denver days. We are BIG spenders. NFL writers and analysts have had us linked to Nnamdi for more than financial reasons for the past few months. One CBS.com writer who predicted AH coming here a few years ago is predicting Nnamdi coming here..not saying;just saying.

Meaning of this post: Don't knock out any of these teams from getting Nnamdi (except oakland)
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Cowboys see Asomugha as huge long shot | ProFootballTalk

Roy Williams could be victim of salary cap | ProFootballTalk

Dallas would have some serious house cleaning to do
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I would say no. As someone else mentioned we just have way too many holes to sign and guy like that. Plus why would he come to a team that's in rebuild mode? He's going to end up on a true contender.
Don't read too much into the whole contender thing. I say that because Moneys the key to everything. Take Charles Woodson for example. Woodson, like Nnamdi was a pro bowl corner leaving oakland in his 8 year. Woodson said he wanted to leave for a team that would be a contender. He went to Green Bay who was coming off a 6-10 season. You can Not tell me he signed with them because he knew they were a super bowl contender, 5 years later they were but that season, no not at all, he by the way signed an 7 year $52 million contract, which was big bucks on that market, that year.

Look at AH for this case. He said he wanted to get paid and be on a contender. The Bucs offered him a few million more than us, and he said he came here because he believed we were contenders; The bucs offered about 2 million more in guaranteed money. Either way the guy was gonna get paid, and money was his first and most important factor.
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Re: Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.

Also, who is to say we wouldn't be a contender WITH Nnamdi? We'd have one of the best secondaries of all time with Nnamdi, Hall, Landry and Atogwe. Easily the best in the NFL today, but I can't recall a secondary THAT strong at all 4 positions. Plus, the 3-4 is going to be dramatically improved in Year 2...defense could be one of the better in the league if we can plug that nose tackle hole with someone like Aubrayo Franklin.

We're also likely to add Cullen Jenkins at DE, who may want to play for us.

Free agency: Who will Redskins target when lockout ends? - The Insider - The Washington Post

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If we get all three of those guys, this defense would be scary good. Even without Nnamdi, if we can get a Cromatie or Ike Taylor...upgrade over Rogers.

On the other side of the ball, we have great young depth at all skill positions. The O-line will continue to be the question mark, even more than QB.

We could end up with a Ravens SB-winning model...dominant D, good running game and a QB who is surrounded with enough help to be effective.

If the other thread is true and we'll actually be forced to spend MORE...we can definitely get all of these guys. Allen is eager to spend and he'll spend smarter to fill needs than the last regime.
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good points about dallas, forgot about their cap situation. They may clean house & make room for him though, JJ can find a way.

I would rather see Rogers get resigned for reasonable $ but I realize he wants more. Hope we don't get in a bidding war for Asom. & end up payin way more than we offered Rogers. I know he's far better than CR but I don't think that would be good for the new mgmt./new look skins.
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I definitely would not mind keeping Rogers for his true value, but he's convinced he's a top CB and wants top money. I'd rather let him walk and get a REAL top CB with that money. Preferably one that can catch a ball.
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good points about dallas, forgot about their cap situation. They may clean house & make room for him though, JJ can find a way.

I would rather see Rogers get resigned for reasonable $ but I realize he wants more. Hope we don't get in a bidding war for Asom. & end up payin way more than we offered Rogers. I know he's far better than CR but I don't think that would be good for the new mgmt./new look skins.
The only reason I wouldn't want to resign rogers is because he can't catch
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Nmadi is amazing but we have a pourous OL, and pretty much need an overhauling at nearly all positions excluding maybe 8 starting spots. We dont need a huge FA we need to sure up our trenches and get good character blue collar guys who enjoy football first. IMO.
This.....is exactly how i feel. Nmadi is an amazing player but we need to fill so many positions that is would be crazy to blow all of our cap money on one player.
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Don't read too much into the whole contender thing. I say that because Moneys the key to everything. Take Charles Woodson for example. Woodson, like Nnamdi was a pro bowl corner leaving oakland in his 8 year. Woodson said he wanted to leave for a team that would be a contender. He went to Green Bay who was coming off a 6-10 season. You can Not tell me he signed with them because he knew they were a super bowl contender, 5 years later they were but that season, no not at all, he by the way signed an 7 year $52 million contract, which was big bucks on that market, that year.

Look at AH for this case. He said he wanted to get paid and be on a contender. The Bucs offered him a few million more than us, and he said he came here because he believed we were contenders; The bucs offered about 2 million more in guaranteed money. Either way the guy was gonna get paid, and money was his first and most important factor.
All good points but to be fair GB still had Farve. We don't have anyone under center that gives us a chance to win.
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^..Yet.. We'll get one soon whether its soon or next year.
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Free agency: Who will Redskins target when lockout ends? - The Insider - The Washington Post

good FA article, talks about Nnamdi
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Also, who is to say we wouldn't be a contender WITH Nnamdi? We'd have one of the best secondaries of all time with Nnamdi, Hall, Landry and Atogwe. Easily the best in the NFL today, but I can't recall a secondary THAT strong at all 4 positions. Plus, the 3-4 is going to be dramatically improved in Year 2...defense could be one of the better in the league if we can plug that nose tackle hole with someone like Aubrayo Franklin.
Uh, that's not even a particularly good secondary. Nnamdi and Landry are top flight NFL DBs; Hall and Atogwe are mostly unwanted as starters. Both have been unrestricted free agents in the past three years and had to sign deals for well below the going rate for an NFL starter.

Last year's secondary lacked anyone who could play the free safety position, and Atogwe brings at least that.

The best secondaries in football are probably Green Bay and Kansas City. Chicago is really good in the secondary. New Orleans is getting a lot better at that level, and Malcolm Jenkins and Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter and Pat Robinson would all be starters on the Redskins. Roman Harper isn't LaRon Landry, but that's not a big deal for them.

The AFC kind of struggles at pass defense as a group, but even the proposed secondary you have above has three pass defense weak links between Atogwe, Hall, and Landry.

Adding Nnamdi gives us a great player in our defense, but it doesn't make the unit better than the sum of it's parts. That's what the Raiders have found out over the years. You can have Asomugha and still struggle to defend mediocre passers. In terms of covering the other team's recievers, you're really only as good as your weakest link. Which for us, is Hall and our safeties.
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