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Old 02-28-2011, 07:35 PM   #151
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:27 PM   #152
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Looks like the Owners may be losing their guaranteed payday. We may see some movement afterall.

'Lockout insurance' reversal ruling saps leverage from owners - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:03 AM   #154
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Let's hope that we hear today of the temporary extension of the old rules. Otherwise we enter a Cold War phase tomorrow night.
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So stupid that they can't get something worked out.
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Let's hope that we hear today of the temporary extension of the old rules. Otherwise we enter a Cold War phase tomorrow night.
None of us want to see a repeat of 1987, especially SB's. This entire process has to be extremely difficult for everyone involved, especially the fringe players just hopeful for an invite to an NFL training camp as an UFA. In the event of an extended lockout and the decision is made that the early games would be played with replacement players [of which we haven't heard much talk] some of these players could be the one's choosing to cross the line. How will they be accepted team-wise when a new CBA is eventually reached?

With both fans and players being able to interact via Twitter, Facebook and other social outlets available, the longer it takes for an agreement to be reached, the more interesting the whole process is going to become.

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Old 03-02-2011, 10:08 AM   #157
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Last two labor disputes -
1987 = short season, Skins SB
1982 = short season, Skins SB


Let's hope for a 12-game season!


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Looks like the Owners may be losing their guaranteed payday. We may see some movement afterall.

'Lockout insurance' reversal ruling saps leverage from owners - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports




That ruling was like you laying down a full house, and the next guy dropping a royal flush on you. Now the playing field is even with much to lose from both sides of the table.
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That ruling was like you laying down a full house, and the next guy dropping a royal flush on you. Now the playing field is even with much to lose from both sides of the table.
The huge difference on the two sides of the table - - despite the recent ruling by Judge Doty - - is that the owners by and large have ways to make money outside football. After all, that is how most of them made the money it takes to buy and NFL team. If the Redskins shut down completely for two years, do you think Danny Boy would be going to a Food Assistance Center looking for free canned goods?

The players on the other hand have only one way that they can earn a minimum of about $500K per year and some of them getting to earn significantly more than that. If the league shut down for 2 years, what percentage of the players would find "six-figure jobs" in the private sector? (Of course, the NFLPA reps at the bargaining table will continue to pull down more than a living wage even if the league shuts down for 2 years.)

That is a fundamental distinction between the two sides doing the negotiating and I don't see any realistic way for that aspect of the playing field to "get leveled".
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NFL players win court ruling as deadline looms - Yahoo! News

This is great news. I hope it holds up on appeal. This gives the owners huge incentive to get a CBA deal done otherwise no TV money. Especially those small/weak market teams that depend on the TV money to pay their bills.

"In a ruling on Tuesday, US District Court judge David Doty in Minneapolis sided with the union by overruling a February 1 decision to reject the NFLPA's request that $4 billion in 2011 payments from networks to the league be placed in escrow if there is a lockout."
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I thought an 11th hour deal might happen, but it's not looking as likely right now

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Old 03-02-2011, 07:26 PM   #162
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Drama I dont need, regularly scheduled football and a better Redskin team I do.
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Ok....please excuse my ignorance. So looks like no deal is getting done. Now what?? They just continue to fight it out after the deadline until they finally come to an agreement. ? Is there more chance of a shorten season than no season at all?
Help....... I really cant live without football.
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Ok....please excuse my ignorance. So looks like no deal is getting done. Now what?? They just continue to fight it out after the deadline until they finally come to an agreement. ? Is there more chance of a shorten season than no season at all?
Help....... I really cant live without football.
Best case scenario today is they agree to extend current cba for a few months, but they won't. Nflpa will dissolve as a union immediately and sue the owners for unfair bargaining. This will go in front of federal court.

It could be done by september with a shorter season, but it is a bit unclear at this point.


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Best case scenario today is they agree to extend current cba for a few months, but they won't. Nflpa will dissolve as a union immediately and sue the owners for unfair bargaining. This will go in front of federal court.

It could be done by september with a shorter season, but it is a bit unclear at this point.


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Thanks for your help. Yeah, looks bleak for an extension of the current CBA. Alright.... i guess we just wait.
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