Ongoing CBA discussions

SmootSmack · 03-04-2011, 09:54 AM

I'm feeling pretty good that a deal gets done by the end of next week. Just a hunch, is all

SOUL-SKINS · 03-04-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm feeling pretty good that a deal gets done by the end of next week. Just a hunch, is all

Yeah. I feel alot better today than i did yesterday when i woke up but there is still alot of money on the table. I just want football!

hooskins · 03-04-2011, 10:39 AM

I think they stop with the formalities and take this bad boy to court. Big brother has to step in for any real change to occur.

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Mattyk · 03-04-2011, 11:22 AM

Second extension moves closer to reality | ProFootballTalk

sounds good

Monkeydad · 03-04-2011, 11:31 AM

How many extensions will it take? Obviously, they're good signs.

Mattyk · 03-04-2011, 11:43 AM

Once the 2nd extension is up, I think there's a deal or there's a lockout. I'm betting on deal.

Player_HTTR · 03-04-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Once the 2nd extension is up, I think there's a deal or there's a lockout. I'm betting on deal.

Yea, no need for extension if they are not close.

Monkeydad · 03-04-2011, 11:49 AM

Definitely leaning towards a deal. If they were too far apart, the union would have de-certified and taken it to court and we'd already be in the lockout.

Mattyk · 03-04-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Definitely leaning towards a deal. If they were too far apart, the union would have de-certified and taken it to court and we'd already be in the lockout.

Agreed. Just the fact that they've agreed to continue talking indicates progress. I think both sides realize that a lockout would be a huge mess.

over the mountain · 03-04-2011, 11:53 AM

From what I heard and understand, the extension allows both parties more time to come to an agreement, once the CBA is expired the players can decertify and take it to fed. court in Minn where a judge whom has ruled in the players favor the last 15 years or so will again get to be the judge. Once in the courts, an expert figured it would take approx 6 months for a ruling. So the players time to decertify and file in court without it resulting in those 6 mos cutting into the reg season is rapidly approaching.

I dont undertand how a judge can be specially set to a matter for over 15 years thoo. I know in Mont Co Cir Co there is one judge who handles the complex contract/business matters b/c those types of cases req a greater understanding of the principles, law in that particular specialized area vs your avg bench judge.

Monkeydad · 03-04-2011, 11:54 AM

I think the big blow was the order that the owners CAN'T use TV money for 2 years even without games. That was their silver bullet, telling the NFLPA..."it doesn't matter to us, we're set for 2 years even without games". Their claim of a 2 year "war chest" was shot down.

Federal judge backs NFLPA in dispute over TV money - ESPN

over the mountain · 03-04-2011, 11:59 AM

About the tv contracts, I found it alil misleading for the owners to say they would have to pay back the 4 bil but left out that they would get to keep 420 mil.

Also, odd was that directv would have to pay 9% more than usual to the nfl if there was a strike and no football.

Mattyk · 03-04-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

From what I heard and understand, the extension allows both parties more time to come to an agreement, once the CBA is expired the players can decertify and take it to fed. court in Minn where a judge whom has ruled in the players favor the last 15 years or so will again get to be the judge. Once in the courts, an expert figured it would take approx 6 months for a ruling. So the players time to decertify and file in court without it resulting in those 6 mos cutting into the reg season is rapidly approaching.

I dont undertand how a judge can be specially set to a matter for over 15 years thoo. I know in Mont Co Cir Co there is one judge who handles the complex contract/business matters b/c those types of cases req a greater understanding of the principles, law in that particular specialized area vs your avg bench judge.

The way I heard it is each CBA is basically an extension of the previous ones since 1987, so Judge Doty remains on the matter.

GMScud · 03-04-2011, 01:50 PM

Just heard on 980AM that the CBA has been extended 7 days. That's got to be a good sign. Sorry, no link yet.

SOUL-SKINS · 03-04-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Just heard on 980AM that the CBA has been extended 7 days. That's got to be a good sign. Sorry, no link yet.

Yes!!!!!!!! Per Adam S. as well

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03-04-2011, 09:54 AM	#196
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,220	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions I'm feeling pretty good that a deal gets done by the end of next week. Just a hunch, is all __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-04-2011, 10:39 AM	#198
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 26 Posts: 8,568	I think they stop with the formalities and take this bad boy to court. Big brother has to step in for any real change to occur. Sent from my Droid __________________ Vacancy

03-04-2011, 11:22 AM	#199
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Second extension moves closer to reality \| ProFootballTalk sounds good __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-04-2011, 11:31 AM	#200
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions How many extensions will it take? Obviously, they're good signs. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-04-2011, 11:43 AM	#201
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Once the 2nd extension is up, I think there's a deal or there's a lockout. I'm betting on deal. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-04-2011, 11:49 AM	#203
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Definitely leaning towards a deal. If they were too far apart, the union would have de-certified and taken it to court and we'd already be in the lockout. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-04-2011, 11:53 AM	#205
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,690	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions From what I heard and understand, the extension allows both parties more time to come to an agreement, once the CBA is expired the players can decertify and take it to fed. court in Minn where a judge whom has ruled in the players favor the last 15 years or so will again get to be the judge. Once in the courts, an expert figured it would take approx 6 months for a ruling. So the players time to decertify and file in court without it resulting in those 6 mos cutting into the reg season is rapidly approaching. I dont undertand how a judge can be specially set to a matter for over 15 years thoo. I know in Mont Co Cir Co there is one judge who handles the complex contract/business matters b/c those types of cases req a greater understanding of the principles, law in that particular specialized area vs your avg bench judge. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

03-04-2011, 11:54 AM	#206
Monkeydad Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 34 Posts: 14,885	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions I think the big blow was the order that the owners CAN'T use TV money for 2 years even without games. That was their silver bullet, telling the NFLPA..."it doesn't matter to us, we're set for 2 years even without games". Their claim of a 2 year "war chest" was shot down. Federal judge backs NFLPA in dispute over TV money - ESPN __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

03-04-2011, 11:59 AM	#207
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: baltimore Posts: 2,690	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions About the tv contracts, I found it alil misleading for the owners to say they would have to pay back the 4 bil but left out that they would get to keep 420 mil. Also, odd was that directv would have to pay 9% more than usual to the nfl if there was a strike and no football. __________________ Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

03-04-2011, 01:50 PM	#209
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Ongoing CBA discussions Just heard on 980AM that the CBA has been extended 7 days. That's got to be a good sign. Sorry, no link yet. __________________ Insert witty signature here

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