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Old 04-25-2011, 04:11 PM   #571
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So as we await Judge Nelson's ruling any lawyers out there want to fill us lay people in on why it might have taken her two + weeks. By this, I mean to ask - what is the usual time for an injunction of this nature, and is she doing additional studies and research, or is it mainly a matter of the backlog in her other court tasks and trials. Is this the only case she is dealing with (I would find that hard to believe). I am sure she wants to make as certain as possible that her decision will stand up through appeals, what amount of that research will she do on her own, how much will be thru the use of court researchers?
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Old 04-25-2011, 04:20 PM   #572
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So if Judge Nelson rules in favor of the players, doesn't that mean a temporary lift of the lockout, allowing free agency? I mean is not like the league can appeal right away, right? I don't see the downside of having free agency right now and then having the league appeal the decision at a later date.
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This Judge Nelson is really pissing me off. She could have made that ruling over a week ago...and now it was supposed to be today and it's already 4:30 and still nothing.
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This Judge Nelson is really pissing me off. She could have made that ruling over a week ago...and now it was supposed to be today and it's already 4:30 and still nothing.
It wouldn't really have mattered if she lifted the lockout as the NFL would have appealed it and assuming they loose would have still pushed back the start of non-draft offseason activities like Free Agency and mini-camps to June at the earliest.

Right now she wants to seem impartial and encourage the two sides to talk and reach a long term resolution to the problem. Thereby taking up less of the courts time and resolving the issue for at least somewhere around 5 years.
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It wouldn't really have mattered if she lifted the lockout as the NFL would have appealed it and assuming they loose would have still pushed back the start of non-draft offseason activities like Free Agency and mini-camps to June at the earliest.

Right now she wants to seem impartial and encourage the two sides to talk and reach a long term resolution to the problem. Thereby taking up less of the courts time and resolving the issue for at least somewhere around 5 years.
I am not asking her to do anything other then make a decision. She said 2 weeks and that deadline passed the middle of last week. I know free agency is not starting anytime soon, but we can't go to the next step and have the appeal until she gives her initial ruling.

Also she encouraged the sides to talk and to talk in minnesotta and then she assigned a judge without clearing his schedule. 3 days of talks and then on hold for a month in part becasue he needs to catch up on his caseload.
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It wouldn't really have mattered if she lifted the lockout as the NFL would have appealed it and assuming they loose would have still pushed back the start of non-draft offseason activities like Free Agency and mini-camps to June at the earliest.

Right now she wants to seem impartial and encourage the two sides to talk and reach a long term resolution to the problem. Thereby taking up less of the courts time and resolving the issue for at least somewhere around 5 years.
So the appeal is immediate?

On a side note, I wonder how much restraint do teams' front offices must have to show in this situation. I mean if you are a team wanting to deal a player (like the Eagles with Kolb) or a team wanting to look at free agency first before the draft (like just about every team), you would want for this to get resolve before the draft or at least have the opportunity to have free agency temporarily before the draft. I am sure there are a lot of teams that will be up the sh*t creek because of this lockout and the inability to make transactions in free agency.
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Story just broke. Judge sides with players and lifts lockout.

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Guys, you have the next 5 mins to submit all your trades, signing, cuts before we make the appeal...GO GO GO!
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So I wonder if this opens the door for player for draft pick trades? If the appeals court takes a week or so, what's to prevent teams from acting now using 2010 rules?
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Closing this thread and starting a new one with today's big news as a new starting point for discussion on the CBA developments.
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Look at you, all grown up GM!

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