Snyder Camp Upset!!

Defensewins · 02-04-2011, 11:26 AM

Monksdown, quit while you are behind. Seriously.

firstdown · 02-04-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

I take Snyder's side on this one. And i can honestly say that other than firing Cerrato twice, i haven't agreed with him on much. The article, while accurate was inflamatory and tasted a little too much of yellow journalism. I mean, yes he cut down trees that didn't belong to him and were protected. But did he go 'agent orange' on them?

And i personally think that depicting a jew with devil horns is one of the most despicable things i've seen in print in a long time. For that alone, 2 million plus fees is appropriate. That's just my opinion. I like that he will give it to homeless organizations if he wins.

I understand that the author didn't place the devil horns on the picture himself, that it was probably done by someone ignorant of the history tied to the that insult for jewish people. The buck stops at the editor, and i will never read their material again. And i don't want a publication that puts that garbage out in our town.

Those trees were on his property.

Monksdown · 02-04-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Those trees were on his property.

thanks, i forgot that detail.

NC_Skins · 02-04-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

Why is that, when i've heard from Indian's that like the name? I haven't yet met a jew who is cool with people thinking that he is the spawn of satan.

Bullshit. Apparently you missed the post where the EDITOR and COVER ARTIST people for the WCP that approved the picture/article are BOTH Jewish.

Yeah, Jewish people are reallllllllly offended...lol

You guys are absolutely hilarious. Forget the facts, lets just make up shit.

Monksdown · 02-04-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Monksdown, quit while you are behind. Seriously.

Honestly, i'm tired of him not having a friend on this forum. I have always jumped on board with the haters because there is a plethora of ammo. But it's gotten to the point where he needs a friend in court, and Danny has become the underdog in regards to public sentiment. Rightfully so.

And i wanted to argue with assholes that feel like i do for the most part. So, i am putting my anchor down and supporting the unsupportable.

Monksdown · 02-04-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

First of all Indians are from India.

There is a significant Native American population that finds the name "Redskins" horribly offensive.

It's not up for debate. It's a stone cold fact.

Secondly, who do you know that would be cool with people thinking that they were the spawn of satan?

I did not realize they were called Native Americans, thanks. You are only in to supporting the majority of the minority? That's an interesting line to draw.

SirClintonPortis · 02-04-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

Ignorance doesnt forgive the anti-semetic picture. Thank you for the insult though, i don't recall insulting you. "your honor, i didn't there was a someone getting ready to fall into the road in front of me" Sorry, manslaughter.

The burden of proof is on you that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that:
1. McKenna had INTENT to use an anti-Semitic caricature
2. That the devil with horns and goatee is always an anti-Semitic caricature.

You have done neither.

Also, the article did not even mention Snyder being a Jew, so the typical ignorant fan WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN he was a Jew just by the article.

I was just testing whether you are dominated by emotion or reason, and emotion clearly wins and I wouldn't want you breaking the rules of logic to pursue "justice" aka emotional satisfaction in your world.

On a separate note, a fair share of Jews don't see it as anti-Semitic.
The devil made him do it? Snyder sees anti-Semitism, but few others agree - Washington Jewish Week - Online Edition - Rockville, MD

Monksdown · 02-04-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Bullshit. Apparently you missed the post where the EDITOR and COVER ARTIST people for the WCP that approved the picture/article are BOTH Jewish.

Yeah, Jewish people are reallllllllly offended...lol

You guys are absolutely hilarious. Forget the facts, lets just make up shit.

I don't care if jewish people were or were not offended. I was offended.

CrustyRedskin · 02-04-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown
Brett Haber blows.

SO does anybody supporting Dan Snyder.

Why yes we all support Daniel Snyder!!! Im sure all of us have put money in is pocket one way or another!!!

irish · 02-04-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

thanks, i forgot that detail.

No they werent, they were on a scenic easement (owned by the Natl Parks Service) between his property and the C&O Canal. He received permission from the NPS to cut down the trees but it was later determined the NPS did not follow proper procedures to grant that permit and questions arose about whether DS's position, connections, and $ improperly influenced the process. In the end, DS had a permit from the NPS to cut down those trees but that permit was improperly issued.

SirClintonPortis · 02-04-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

First of all Indians are from India.

There is a significant Native American population that finds the name "Redskins" horribly offensive.

It's not up for debate. It's a stone cold fact.

Secondly, who do you know that would be cool with people thinking that they were the spawn of satan?

http://web.archive.org/web/200702050...s_09-24_pr.pdf

If you got the numberical evidence to shoot it down, it's all yours for the taking.

Lotus · 02-04-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

http://web.archive.org/web/200702050...s_09-24_pr.pdf

If you got the numberical evidence to shoot it down, it's all yours for the taking.

In my classes I show a video which includes two Native Americans, both proudly wearing Redskins caps.

Monksdown · 02-04-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

The burden of proof is on you that prove beyond a reasonable doubt that:
1. McKenna had INTENT to use an anti-Semitic caricature
2. That the devil with horns and goatee is always an anti-Semitic caricature.

You have done neither.

Also, the article did not even mention Snyder being a Jew, so the typical ignorant fan WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN he was a Jew just by the article.

I was just testing whether you are dominated by emotion or reason, and emotion clearly wins and I wouldn't want you breaking the rules of logic to pursue "justice" aka emotional satisfaction in your world.

On a separate note, a fair share of Jews don't see it as anti-Semitic.
The devil made him do it? Snyder sees anti-Semitism, but few others agree - Washington Jewish Week - Online Edition - Rockville, MD

I wouldn't argue that my reaction wasn't emotionally motivated. It certainly was. Furthermore, i'm ignorant as to the requirements to facilitate cause in a lawsuit. There is clearly no doubt to that effect.

I didn't like the article, i didn't like the picture, and i personally feel that Dan Snyder is as much a part of the Redskins, as all of us. What do i mean by that?

If you and i were at the same bar one night, and someone was relentlessly antogonizing you because of your 'skins hat. I would speak up for you. I feel compelled to speak up for OUR owner. He's not going anywhere, and it's our privelege to complain about him. But it's not our right to remove him. In the same way it's not my right to tell you not to be a fan.

Mattyk · 02-04-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

Honestly, i'm tired of him not having a friend on this forum. I have always jumped on board with the haters because there is a plethora of ammo. But it's gotten to the point where he needs a friend in court, and Danny has become the underdog in regards to public sentiment. Rightfully so.

And i wanted to argue with assholes that feel like i do for the most part. So, i am putting my anchor down and supporting the unsupportable.

lol good luck man, the vultures are circling all over this place...

Personally mark me down as a member of the I don't give a shit camp.

skinsguy · 02-04-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol good luck man, the vultures are circling all over this place...

Personally mark me down as a member of the I don't give a shit camp.

I'm joining that club right along with you Matty.

02-04-2011, 11:26 AM	#196
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,759	Re: Snyder Camp Upset!! Monksdown, quit while you are behind. Seriously.

02-04-2011, 11:43 AM	#204
CrustyRedskin The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 2,008	Re: Snyder Camp Upset!! Quote: Originally Posted by Monksdown Brett Haber blows. SO does anybody supporting Dan Snyder. Why yes we all support Daniel Snyder!!! Im sure all of us have put money in is pocket one way or another!!! __________________ But you know the sun's settin' fast, and just like they say, nothing good ever lasts.

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