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Old 04-07-2011, 05:00 PM   #406
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[quote=Longtimefan;792562]^ Editorial Reviews: This is what Alan Moores had to say.

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Even in the presence of model franchises throughout the sports world, Zirin makes a strong argument that team owners are ruining our storied teams, not to mention the sports themselves. But then, what's new? Profiling a rogues' gallery of owners—among them, the Yankees' George Steinbrenner, the Colorado Rockies' Charlie Monfort, the Oklahoma Thunder's Clay Bennett—Zirin says that many owners rely, primarily through legalized extortion, on public coffers to stay afloat. He also discusses the baseball owners' acquiescence in their players' use of steroids and the too-rapid expansion of the NHL that has diluted the quality of play for decades. There are many to blame for the strange state of pro sports today, including overweening politicians, fans, and sports media. But, from the evidence in Zirin's book, ownership is a good place to start. --Alan Moores [unquote]
How did Steinbrenner ruin the Yankees? I'd be curious to know that from Mr. Moore. I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't call them a ruined franchise.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:01 PM   #407
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^ Editorial Reviews: This is what Alan Moores had to say.



How did Steinbrenner ruin the Yankees? I'd be curious to know that from Mr. Moore. I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't call them a ruined franchise.
Well the 80s were not kind to the Yankees, in large part due to Steinbrenner's ways. There's a great book on Steinbrenner (so great I can't remember the name of it it seems) but it really covers the best and worst of Steinbrenner. He was definitely one of the most impressive (both good and bad) in the history of pro sports.
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:58 PM   #408
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^ I'm going to purchase a copy of Zirin's book, it's only $19.95 at bookstores. I'd like to read how he elaborates on some of the assertions he makes referencing sports franchise owners. I've read some of his previous material as he's well respected for what he does.

In response to Ruhskins question on the Alan Moore editorial review; I'd like to ask Mr. Moore that same question. Maybe the read will shed more light.
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Old 04-08-2011, 03:54 AM   #409
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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;791945]Remember, tax laws can change overnight...

1. I am not a tax attorney or CPA but by my understanding of estate taxes, there will be ZERO estate tax due if Snyder dies first and leaves the team - - and anything else - - to his spouse. There is no limit on what someone can leave to a spouse tax-free. When the spouse dies, however, that is a different story...



3. Could Snyder be tricked into selling the team? Interesting concept here but it would take someone who is pretty stupid and gullible to fall for a con that would end up that way. I may not have the world's highest opinion of Danny Boy as a person to guide an NFL franchise, but I cannot bring myself to think he is that stupid or gullible.

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1)That was not my understanding , as always depends on where you live and how much it's worth.

3)Alot of Snyders wealth is paper.(not cash assets),if he buys ....lets say an Amusment Park and does it with a stock leverage ....basicly mortgages the Skins to buy something else and that fails....yes he could be made to sell the Skins(or at least his share) but that is alot of maybes.
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1. I am not a tax attorney or CPA but by my understanding of estate taxes, there will be ZERO estate tax due if Snyder dies first and leaves the team - - and anything else - - to his spouse. There is no limit on what someone can leave to a spouse tax-free. When the spouse dies, however, that is a different story...

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Legislation enacted by the 2006 General Assembly, House Bill 5018, repeals the Virginia estate tax for the estates of decedents whose date of death occurs on or after July 1, 2007. The estates of decedents whose date of death occurs before July 1, 2007 remain subject to the estate tax provisions. In addition, the repeal of the Virginia estate tax does not affect the filing requirements for fiduciary income tax, regardless of when the date of death occurs.
Basically, Dan Snyder (and many other rich assholes) get to avoid taxes now because the law was repealed back in 2007. Had this been done prior to JKC's death, the team would have been in his son's hand. I'm surprised it took this long for the good ole boys in the "rich club" to get their buddies in state legislation to repeal this.

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Remember, tax laws can change overnight...

1. I am not a tax attorney or CPA but by my understanding of estate taxes, there will be ZERO estate tax due if Snyder dies first and leaves the team - - and anything else - - to his spouse. There is no limit on what someone can leave to a spouse tax-free. When the spouse dies, however, that is a different story...



3. Could Snyder be tricked into selling the team? Interesting concept here but it would take someone who is pretty stupid and gullible to fall for a con that would end up that way. I may not have the world's highest opinion of Danny Boy as a person to guide an NFL franchise, but I cannot bring myself to think he is that stupid or gullible.

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1)That was not my understanding , as always depends on where you live and how much it's worth.

3)Alot of Snyders wealth is paper.(not cash assets),if he buys ....lets say an Amusment Park and does it with a stock leverage ....basicly mortgages the Skins to buy something else and that fails....yes he could be made to sell the Skins(or at least his share) but that is alot of maybes.
Actually he could.... all they have to do is hand him their vacation form with the sale of the team paper work right below the vacation form and make sure DS presses hard enough for it to go through. lol.
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[Quote] The large for-profit corporation that owns Washington City Paper could have checked the public facts and done the right thing: required its paper to retract the false charges and apologize. Had they done so when I filed the lawsuit, I would have immediately withdrawn the case. If City Paper in the next several days retracts the false statements cited in my lawsuit and apologizes, I am still willing to withdraw the case. [Unquote]

Why I am suing Washington City Paper - The Washington Post
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:17 AM   #413
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Why I am suing Washington City Paper - The Washington Post


Hey look everybody, it's Dan Snyder continuing to be a huge douche bag. Who'd thunk it?
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Good to hear his side of things at least.

Let's face it, the article he is suing over was not 100% factual. He does have some valid points.
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:32 AM   #415
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Not sure why he had to keep mentioning that the paper is "for-profit". Aren’t most papers and businesses for profit? The first 3 paragraphs actually made me feel for Danny for just one second....

Also as the first commenter on the article posted here's the lawsuit against Danny's telemarketing firm that was charged with forged thousands of costumers names:

News Release - Companies To Pay $3.1 Million To Settle Slamming Allegations
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