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Old 06-25-2011, 11:58 AM   #166
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"DAMN YOU KIDS AND YOUR TWITTERNETS AND YOUR FACESPACES! YOUNG WHIPPERSNAPPERS JUST DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THEY HAVE IT! WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE I HAD TO WALK 15 MILES UPHILL BOTH WAYS IN THE SNOW TO GET TO THE PRACTICE FACILITY, JUST FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF PUKING IN THE HUDDLE!"

I think the most interesting part of that article isn't some old fart complaining about Twitter, but what he said about the player workouts.

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"I think teams have done a great job of getting together and working out,Ē he said. ďSome have been televised, and I donít agree with that. I think this is an opportunity to spend [time] just with your teammates and not for all of the public to see you out there....Thatís the way it comes off. It comes off that way. And thereís easy ways to get together, for offensive guys to go out and throw routes and run plays and things of that nature. I believe itís become a show, where guys have gotten everybody together and itís like theyíre having camps and theyíre having OTAs when thatís part of the reason weíre in this lockout, to try to avoid some things like that. Itís unbelievable, the circus that has kind of gathered around guys just working out together. Itís amazing.Ē
We're in the lockout to avoid having OTAs and camp?

And why does the bolded part sound suspiciously like the workouts the Redskins were having?

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it, but still...
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:33 PM   #167
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As far as accuracy is concerned McNabb's career completion percentage is 59% Elway, 56%, Marino 59.4%. I'm not implying he's better than those 2 because he's not. However he's not as in-accurate as his detractors make him out to be.
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:21 PM   #168
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I would be surprised if his stats last year would stand up to that scrutiny?
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:08 PM   #169
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As far as accuracy is concerned McNabb's career completion percentage is 59% Elway, 56%, Marino 59.4%. I'm not implying he's better than those 2 because he's not. However he's not as in-accurate as his detractors make him out to be.
It's not so much that his passes don't get completed as much as it's the ball location. Part of the West Coast Offense is allowing your wide receivers to catch the ball and gain years after the catch. It's really hard to catch a ball thrown at your feet or when you have to slide and drop to your knees to make a catch. Sometimes that's the only place to put the ball, but notice a lot of low passes with McNabb, or passes that were thrown entirely too hard.
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It's not so much that his passes don't get completed as much as it's the ball location. Part of the West Coast Offense is allowing your wide receivers to catch the ball and gain years after the catch. It's really hard to catch a ball thrown at your feet or when you have to slide and drop to your knees to make a catch. Sometimes that's the only place to put the ball, but notice a lot of low passes with McNabb, or passes that were thrown entirely too hard.
True, he doesn't throw an easy ball at all. Plus he often puts to much on short routine passes that don't require a high velocity throw. That's why his recievers drop so many passes.
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Old 06-26-2011, 12:35 AM   #171
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Perfect example was during the Minnesota game. Santana comes across the formation on a slant, it's gain, but McNabb just drills the ball as hard as he can into Moss' hands, and there's no way Moss can catch it. Ball bounces off Moss' hands and ends up being intercepted.

Everyone says it's a drop by Moss, but there was no way anyone could've caught that ball. A little touch would be nice. Armstrong said he already has cartilage damage from catching footballs thrown by McNabb.
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As far as accuracy is concerned McNabb's career completion percentage is 59% Elway, 56%, Marino 59.4%. I'm not implying he's better than those 2 because he's not. However he's not as in-accurate as his detractors make him out to be.
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19.9% of all of his attempts resulted in "Poor throws".

Most of the rest of them have about 13% of all of their attempts being poor throws.

Worst on the list, by a pretty wide margin. Only Orton comes close.
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Perfect example was during the Minnesota game. Santana comes across the formation on a slant, it's gain, but McNabb just drills the ball as hard as he can into Moss' hands, and there's no way Moss can catch it. Ball bounces off Moss' hands and ends up being intercepted.

Everyone says it's a drop by Moss, but there was no way anyone could've caught that ball. A little touch would be nice. Armstrong said he already has cartilage damage from catching footballs thrown by McNabb.
Say whatever you want about McNabb.
But the pass you describe here is a drop.
If it hits the WR in the hands, its a drop.
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As far as accuracy is concerned McNabb's career completion percentage is 59% Elway, 56%, Marino 59.4%. I'm not implying he's better than those 2 because he's not. However he's not as in-accurate as his detractors make him out to be.
I mean, he really is though.

Completion %+:

Marino 110
Elway 101
McNabb 97

100 is average. This is adjusted for era.

The other thing is, you have the end of the careers of Elway and Marino (declining statistics) built in, and McNabb is theoretically still going to play a couple more years that drag down his career averages. At the end of his career, we could be talking about a guy who played his entire career in a west coast offense, and completed 5% fewer of his passes than the average quarterback. Not to draw conclusions about McNabb's career that can't be drawn from simple completion percentage, but that's pretty unimpressive.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:01 PM   #175
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Re: Where will McNabb land?

Let's dissect this video of McNabb throwing one pass in Phoenix a million different ways

VID_20110630_123504.mp4 video by abdolly - Photobucket
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Let's dissect this video of McNabb throwing one pass in Phoenix a million different ways

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McNabb looks old. Just stature-wise. He seems old to me.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:39 PM   #177
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Let's dissect this video of McNabb throwing one pass in Phoenix a million different ways

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Nothing's ever really been wrong with his throwing motion. It's always been his footwork that's really the problem; throwing off balance, throwing off his back foot, taking too big a step during his "wind up".

As for the video, he just doesn't look...I don't know if explosive is the right word, but I'm going to use it anyway. Like GTripp said, he just looks old. And I know they're working out in t-shirts and shorts and only going half speed, but I kinda noticed the same thing last season where he wasn't really coming out from under center with some oomph.

But I don't really know what I'm talking about, probably, so ignore me.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:42 PM   #178
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For the record, I think this game was the best game McNabb played last season (well, until the two dumbass decisions at the end). I'm disqualifying the Texans game because the Texans secondary was the only one that looked worse than ours last year.






It was also the best game Kyle called all season. Go figure that when the quarterback and the OC are in sync, good things happen. Well, except for the not winning part.
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I thought Houston was one of the better called games by Kyle and the better games played by McNabb.

The Packers game stands out to me because our OL couldn't block anybody and McNabb was able to survive and produce.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:09 PM   #180
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Well like I said, the Texans game...it's kind of an abberation. Their secondary was pretty awful, and well...he practice against that defense every week for 2-3 years. So I thought the game was an amazing offensive showcase, but considering those factors, I couldn't give it that kind of appreciation.
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