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Old 12-16-2004, 10:13 AM   #16
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I really wish we could have seen LaVar all year in this defense.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:18 AM   #17
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I really wish we could have seen Ramsey all year in this offense.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:19 AM   #18
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Jansen too
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Old 12-16-2004, 11:57 AM   #19
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Defensewins: You didn't watch the MOnday night (I think) game against the Chiefs then. Where their Oline sometimes doubled him but most of the time Will Sheilds (I think again) singlehandedly owned Ray Lewis like a bitch!

I heard a commentator even say that Ray Lewis should be on that list before Urlacher. He's not what he used to be and benefits from great players around him. Not saying I totally agree, but I think Ray Lewis is the most overhyped player in the NFL.
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:13 PM   #20
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Lavar and Samuels are overrated. As for Lavar it's not all his fault. He would be much further along if he played in one defensive system his whole career. Injuries have also been a factor. Samuels has been good, but not the pro bowler he is billed as.
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:33 PM   #21
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samuels is garbage to me. i really like seeing lower round draft picks to come in (wilson) and do a great job. i like them because of their lack of bigheadedness. Bugel can get theses guys to buy in on what he is saying. like bostic, joe etc. i want a left tackle that has nothing to lose and everything to gain and bugel can whip him in to one of the best. and it all starts with the players mindset which first rounders are more bigheaded.
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:41 PM   #22
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Samuels has made some very good plays this year. He, like everyone else, needs time to adapt. That being said, he better restructure or he's outta here.
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:14 PM   #23
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everyone who needs surgery for any chronic injuries (COLES, SAMUELS) better get it this year!
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:35 PM   #24
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I really do not think it would matter for LaVar. He is definetly a player who will have a short lived career. As much as I like to see him on the field. His chances of getting hurt are doubled of the average player. It is so hard to get a solid view on Samuels. One day no one can get by. Then the next a 95 year old grandpa with no legs could blow by him. The only way Samules will be here next year is if he restructures his vastly over-paid contract.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:39 PM   #25
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Samuels has had a decent year and he's also been quietly playing hurt.

Hopefully he'll restructure, get healthy and bounce back strong in '05.
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:16 AM   #26
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Samuels has had a decent year and he's also been quietly playing hurt.

Hopefully he'll restructure, get healthy and bounce back strong in '05.
didn't he play hurt all last year too? wasn't that his psuedo-excuse then too? whatever it is, he better get it fixed. Coles too.
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Old 12-19-2004, 11:45 AM   #27
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While I think Urlacher and Arrington may be a bit overrated, whoever came up with the selections for this group of Arrington, Urlacher, and Zach Thomas is a dumbass. I mean when u r basing this off of their productivity vs their salary, there's only a very small selection of players who actually deserve the contracts they have and live up to all of their expectations, but there isn't a snowball's chance in hell any GM would turn down the option, if it arose, to have those three players as their starting linebackers.
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