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Old 12-15-2004, 09:55 PM   #1
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The all-overrated team

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3244196

There are 2 redskins on this list
Samules
Arrington

What are your thoughts on this list?

I am not sure if I buy into Arrington, but that is just me...
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:29 PM   #2
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I Can See Thier Argument For Both Samuels And Arrington
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Old 12-15-2004, 11:57 PM   #3
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Hard to call a man over-rated that's played two games. In the past I could see it though. He's a great player, but likes to over-pursue and "freelance."
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:02 AM   #4
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man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:14 AM   #5
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man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list
warren sap was on the list
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Old 12-16-2004, 01:27 AM   #6
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maybe no defensive coordinator has stayed in DC long enough to leave an impression on LaVar. seems pretty likely. we all need to cross our fingers for Williams not to leave us.
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:18 AM   #7
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He didnt do so good with the bills does anyone know how long he was with the bill even a DC or Oc.Cause if Gibbs is coach for a while longer Williams can learn from him and he will be just like him when hes coach
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:14 AM   #8
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I agree with the entire list for the most part.

Urlacher is definitely way overhyped.

As for Arrington and Samuels, yeah I'll buy it.

But who's responsible for the overhyping? Funny how the media loves to build people up and at the same time they love to break 'em down.

I'm surprised Champ didn't make the list.
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:15 AM   #9
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man i agree with everyting the guy said. i wish they had added warren sapp to the list
He's on there
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #10
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For whoever said WIlliams didn't do well in Buffalo. His defense was still awesome. As long as he can get someone to run the offense. A well known coach (by then, who knows) but all of us know Snyder is willing to spend the cash to get the best offensive mind in here!
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:23 AM   #11
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...... Urlacher? Maybe he's not as great as everybody makes out but he is still pretty good what MLB doesn't need tackles to keep the O-linemen off of him even Ray Lewis need's big guy's on the inside, I think their splitting hair's on a few of those guy's, .....
It is true Urlacher is the second best MLB in the NFL. But Ray Lewis is head and shoulders better MLB than Urlacher. Ray Lewis is a complete MLB (has all the tools). Urlacher is great in the open field, great speed and skills guy, but lacks the toughness/physical strength in the in small space. I have seen Urlacher get picked up and moved by top offensive lineman. I have never seen Ray Lewis or Arrington (for that matter) get dominated by an offensive lineman.
That is Urlacher's ONLY weakness. Other than that he is great.
The only reason Urlacher is the NFL's poster child for MLB's is Ray Lewis got caught up in that whole Superbowl mess where some guy got killed. Lewis was lucky he did not end up in jail. Since then though Lewis has been a good about not hanging with the wrong crowd. But damage was already done to his public image.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:31 AM   #12
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wheres Champ on this list?
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:37 AM   #13
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I agree totally about LA. He is a good LB but not the great gamebreaker that I think everyone expected.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:44 AM   #14
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I hate to say it, but they have a point about both these players.

ESPECIALLY, when you take the dollars they are making into account.

Is Samuels worth 9 million dollars/year? Not in a million years. Is Levarr worth the money he is getting? Nope.

Both of these players are making about twice what they should.

That being said, I think Arrington has the desire and is definately an athletic freak of nature. I think Williams will help turn him into a player who earns his cash.

Samuels should be cut at the end of the season if he doesn't renegotiate for a more resonable contract.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:06 AM   #15
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wonder if seeing Lemar Marshall perform so well and being part of the no.2 defense w/o him will temper Arrington a little bit.

exactly what made this defense so good was that no one was being a 'star' (except Sean Taylor). everyone played their roles to the plan and thats why no offense knew what was coming. everyone had a chance to get a sack in, Williams mixing everything up putting no obvious emphasis on anybody. everyone marvels at Pierce and it's because he plays smart and sound without making ANY splashy plays.

any criticism of Sean Taylor this year is exactly because he tried TOO hard to stand out, and is most likely why Williams kept Bowen and Lott in front of him until they got injured.

if anything, having LaVar out this year deprived Williams of a defensive DECOY along with a handful more sure-fire sacks.
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