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Skinsfaninok's Available NFL QBs Poll

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View Poll Results: Which QB Would You Want?
Marc Bulger 9 6.98%
Matt Hasselbeck 7 5.43%
Kevin Kolb 44 34.11%
Carson Palmer 30 23.26%
Alex Smith 22 17.05%
Vince Young 17 13.18%
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:14 AM   #106
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I thought of not including Kolb, because I figure he'd run away with this. But I'd consider what you have to give up for him. Is he worth it vs. getting say VY for a late pick or even for nothing?
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:38 PM   #107
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How about Hasselbeck and Locker here?

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Old 04-19-2011, 10:06 AM   #108
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None of the above.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:51 AM   #110
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Old 04-20-2011, 04:04 PM   #111
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I'd take Bulger. He's probably the best pure passer out of the group. I'd consider Palmer but that would take draft picks so he's a no. The rest of them you can have. Not sure why everyone is high on Kolb casue he's done nothing special in his starts. VY is a total waste of time cause he's simply not mentally tough enough to be an NFL starter. Smith has shown he's never going to be anything but below average. Hassleback is too old.
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Great idea. Hasselbeck will get hurt by week 4 and Locker will be thrown into the fire before he's ready, after not being able to work out with the coaches though the lockout.

5-11 will be a feat.


I'm still saying that if the training camp is abbreviated or missed altogether from the lockout, which appears to be more than likely at this point, the best route is to bring back a QB who already knows the system and definitely avoid a rookie taking snaps in the first half of the season. This applies to all teams.

McNabb makes the most sense and if not him, Grossman.
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Great idea. Hasselbeck will get hurt by week 4 and Locker will be thrown into the fire before he's ready, after not being able to work out with the coaches though the lockout.

5-11 will be a feat.


I'm still saying that if the training camp is abbreviated or missed altogether from the lockout, which appears to be more than likely at this point, the best route is to bring back a QB who already knows the system and definitely avoid a rookie taking snaps in the first half of the season. This applies to all teams.

McNabb makes the most sense and if not him, Grossman.
Very logical points, I agree. We need to shore up the lines, which is a major weakness on both sides of the ball. Plus the learning curve will be a bit quicker than a skill position such as QB or WR.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:46 PM   #114
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Very logical points, I agree. We need to shore up the lines, which is a major weakness on both sides of the ball. Plus the learning curve will be a bit quicker than a skill position such as QB or WR.
Another MAJOR reason we should not use a pick on a QB.

Reinforce the line and if we really need a new QB after this season, get him next season.

Who knows, if McNabb is not running for his life and being smashed into a fine powder every game, maybe he'll put up the numbers he has in the past.

He was running VERY well early in the season. We were all commenting on how he looked better than he has for years. Then he developed a distinct limp, then he was pulled altogether. I do believe his health and lack of protection had a major role in his decline. Early in the year, the Texans game especially, he was hitting deep balls (which require time and protection) with ease. Later, he was running for his life.

Trent Williams did a great job protecting him on that side, but the rest of the line needs attention like we gave LT last draft. Center is a must-upgrade, that's where many of his hits came from, right up the middle...even he wasn't being tripped by Rabach.

The same will apply to Grossman...look at how quickly he was hit on that disastrous debut against Suh. Sure, a QB should not hand off the ball to a defensive lineman, but he had no time to react. He played well later on, so he does have a good grasp of the system and with protection and time, I think we could minimize the "Rex plays" and like the Bears, win in spite of him.

A better line will also enable Shanahan to implement his greatest weapon, his running game, which will put less pressure on Rex or Donovan.

I say, get the best available O-lineman at #10...no matter the position! Even another LT-quality tackle can be used on either side and Trent has experience at both ends in college. A guard or center at #10? Who cares about draft history, it's what we need.

With the uncertainty about FA this year, teams should take the exact opposite approach as normally: instead of taking the best available player, drafting for needs and filling holes will need to take precedence. We have specific needs and we should make sure we fill them for sure, not knowing if/when/how FA signings will happen. We should not count on FA this year, lets plug the holes and get these guys rostered now. I know they can't work out with coaches, but nothing will stop them from attending London Fletcher's "non-team, unofficial, pick-up game mini-camps" and working out with the guys voluntarily.




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Very logical points, I agree. We need to shore up the lines, which is a major weakness on both sides of the ball. Plus the learning curve will be a bit quicker than a skill position such as QB or WR.
Whoa whoa whoa. When did the learning curve become quick for QB's and WR. Maybe it's getting quicker for receivers and a little faster for QB's, but you still need 2 to 3 years to be able to run a full playbook with a rookie QB.

Offensive Lineman, if they're good take half a season before you can call them impact players. QB's on the other hand, even if they're good the first year are protected and limited when it comes to play calling.
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Whoa whoa whoa. When did the learning curve become quick for QB's and WR. Maybe it's getting quicker for receivers and a little faster for QB's, but you still need 2 to 3 years to be able to run a full playbook with a rookie QB.

Offensive Lineman, if they're good take half a season before you can call them impact players. QB's on the other hand, even if they're good the first year are protected and limited when it comes to play calling.
DB, my point was that it takes less time on an average to develop OL and DL, than it does QB or WR.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:56 PM   #117
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DB, my point was that it takes less time on an average to develop OL and DL, than it does QB or WR.
Opps. My bad. You mind unquoting me so I can delete that lol. I mean if I'm going to overthrow Smoot as rain man I can't have stupid errors like that in my post history. Rain man has to be a man of the people.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:57 PM   #118
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Also, for the Vince Young fans.
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Open competition in training camp or give John Beck, yeah John Beck, a legit shot at being the QB for Burgundy and Gold outright.
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I think Beck is a quality backup but he deserves a shot at the number 1 spot. Right now with Rex a FA and DM leaving he is the guy LOL
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