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Old 04-20-2011, 10:10 PM   #226
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Re: Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?

Yeah buckskin I think Mallett is a damn good prospect ON THE FIELD obviously u can't control what he does off of it
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:53 PM   #227
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Yeah buckskin I think Mallett is a damn good prospect ON THE FIELD obviously u can't control what he does off of it
I won't deny that he has put together some nice plays, but it is widely accepted that he doesn't move well. Couple that a career completion percentage of 54.6%, apparently he's not incredibly accurate either. Of the top QB prospects only Locker's completion percentage is lower.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:33 PM   #228
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^ no doubt he's a slug back there , if he has a solid OL he could be a big time QB, it's not like he had Jones or Green to throw to at Ark. Im still a Locker guy for what reason IDk but if we took Mallett instead, id be happy also.
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I won't deny that he has put together some nice plays, but it is widely accepted that he doesn't move well. Couple that a career completion percentage of 54.6%, apparently he's not incredibly accurate either. Of the top QB prospects only Locker's completion percentage is lower.
Not sure where you're getting his numbers, but his completion % for his college career was actually 57.8%.

Last season he was at 64.4%.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:00 PM   #230
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Not sure where you're getting his numbers, but his completion % for his college career was actually 57.8%.

Last season he was at 64.4%.
I took a blogger's numbers for fact, dammit. I've been searching around the net trying to villianize Mallett, but the more I learn about this kid the more impressed with him I become. The one glaring flaw is his -103 yds rushing, 28 of those at the Sugar Bowl.
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Well it's not entirely impossible that he went out after dinner, got hammered, got up the next morning, was able to go down to breakfast and tell the Panthers he wasn't up to meeting with them.

But again, who knows really what went down. These next few days are going to be crazy with rumors
My guess is this is probably what happened. But then again, there are so many smokescreens thrown out this time of year. Who knows, maybe a team picking late in the 1st round is really high on Mallett (no pun intended haha) and floated this rumor with the hope he'd fall to them. That would be a lousy thing to do, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Are you serious? You obviously don't watch college football if you believe that Mallett isn't a first round talent. He has one of the best arms I have every seen. He's extremely accurate with the football and moves very well in the pocket. He has put huge up numbers against top quality opponents. Anyone who says that this guy is not a 1st talent haven't really seen many of his games.

No one will deny that Mallet is a first round talent. Like every QB in this class he has warts. I just don't know what to think about Mallet. I love some of the throws he made, however for all the indoctrination I received about SEC defenses no one on either side could even come close to the QB but for a few plays. And Bama supposedly has the best DT this year.

I think that the Sugar Bowl is the best video to watch on Mallet. It gives you the best look as his positives and negatives.
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<snip>Of course, Cosell was trying to compliment V. Seay when Cosell called him "that little monkey".

This is a very old topic but since it's still open, I have a question about Howard Cosell comment #2 below. It was Alvin Garrett (not Virgil) of the Smurfs that Cosell made ONE of his FOUR comments about.

Taken in context, Howard Cosell didn't actually call Garrett anything. One of the politically (in)correct words he used at least four times that I know of is listed below along with the context of how he used it.

FOR THE RECORD: It has already been proven that these comments had nothing to do with racism. Cosell was a strong civil-rights supporter of all athletes including Curt Flood, Jackie Robinson, Hank Aaron, Arthur Ashe, Muhammed Ali, and John Carlos/Tommy Smith (1968 Olympics) among others.

FACT: There are at lease FOUR separate "little monkey" comments made by Cosell, (not just one or two).

#1. "You know that little monkey... again, the theorem was that he was too small for pro football." - August 29, 1972 K.C. Chiefs vs. N.Y. Giants preseason HOF game (re: Mike Adamle)

#2. "Look at that little monkey run!" (Unidentified player, mid 70's game, punt or kickoff return?) Does anyone remember who this one was about???

#3. "Joe Gibbs wanted to get that kid, and that little monkey gets loose doesn't he?" - September 5, 1983 Dallas at Washington (re: Alvin Garrett)

youtube.com/watch?v=PVScwog05Xw

#4. "That little monkey can really pick it." 1982, Cosell called white Atlanta Braves second baseman a "little monkey" while praising his fielding skills. (re: Glenn Hubbard)

I have already eliminated Alvin Garrett (Washington Redskins), Mike Adamle (K.C. Chiefs), and Joe Washington (Baltimore Colts and Washington Redskins) with my review of those games and players above. Note: It was not the game where Joe Washington ran a last minute 91 yd kickoff return for a touchdown to win the game 34-27 during the September 18, 1978 Monday night game between the Baltimore Colts at New England Patriots.

Anyone remember if comment #2 was even about a Redskin player?
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Alright, please stop bumping old threads with the same response no less.
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VANILLA ICE???
Come on man..........
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FACT: Nobody cares what Howard Cosell said.
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The remark really doesn't hit me as racist...hell where were all these people and "politically correct" crap when Jason Williams was being call "White Chocolate". No way that happens now. I think it ridiculous the double standard that exists in todays society regarding what can be said and what can't. Black guy says something and it is just laughed at. For example, Greg Jennings talking about Jordy Nelson. Stereo typing his as the typical white guy that can't run or can't jump.
here is the comment '

“I was talking to ‘Wood’ in the fourth quarter and he said, ‘When you see Jordy out there, you think, “Oh well, he’s a white wide receiver. He won’t be very athletic.” But Jordy sort of breaks all those stereotypes,’” quarterback Aaron Rodgers said. “I am not sure why he keeps sneaking up on guys.”

It says it was from Rogers, but it was Jennings who origanly said it, and Rogers came to his defense and agreed to the statement.
Now had a white guy said something stereotypical of a black athlete all hell would have broke loose.
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here is Jennings comment

"They underestimate him. And honestly, he uses that to his advantage,” Jennings said Wednesday afternoon. “Seriously … a lot of it has to do with the fact that guys look at him and say, ‘OK, he’s the white guy, he can’t be that good.’ Well, he is that good, he’s proven to be that good and it’s because of the work and the time that he’s put in – not only on the field but in his preparation off the field.”

How did this one go unnoticed? He is basically saying because your white, you can't be a good receiver. Well there are some stereotypical statements and racism in that statement, in my opinion.
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"They underestimate him. And honestly, he uses that to his advantage,” Jennings said Wednesday afternoon. “Seriously … a lot of it has to do with the fact that guys look at him and say, ‘OK, he’s the white guy, he can’t be that good.’ Well, he is that good, he’s proven to be that good and it’s because of the work and the time that he’s put in – not only on the field but in his preparation off the field.”

How did this one go unnoticed? He is basically saying because your white, you can't be a good receiver. Well there are some stereotypical statements and racism in that statement, in my opinion.
Dude - what's the problem? Everybody knows white guys can't jump.
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here is Jennings comment

"They underestimate him. And honestly, he uses that to his advantage,” Jennings said Wednesday afternoon. “Seriously … a lot of it has to do with the fact that guys look at him and say, ‘OK, he’s the white guy, he can’t be that good.’ Well, he is that good, he’s proven to be that good and it’s because of the work and the time that he’s put in – not only on the field but in his preparation off the field.”

How did this one go unnoticed? He is basically saying because your white, you can't be a good receiver. Well there are some stereotypical statements and racism in that statement, in my opinion.
One, he's talking about a specific group: players who play defense.

Two, Jennings is talking about other people doing something. "They underestimate" and "Guys say" are the two actions stated. Who are "they" and "guys"? Players(mostly black) who play defense. What are they doing? Underestimating.

Three, the final sentence's point is basically that "THEY are wrong".

If anything, he's hating on black people if you want to put it that way, but that's a stretch too because he probably wasn't thinking in those terms either.

I'm tempting to blast out a paragraph about linking verbs and action verbs, but I think it is unnecessary.
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