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Old 04-15-2011, 05:54 PM   #46
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Re: Was Jamie Dukes out of line on Ryan Mallett?

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Dukes is a sh*thead plain and simple. I think it is borderline racist because Dukes statement is an attempt to connotate Mallet's character as negative...which in turn gives light to Dukes own racist stereotypes.
Thats a little much isn't it? It was a simple misguided statement. Not a reflection of someone, who by all accounts is a pretty nice guy, and I've heard that from whites and blacks alike. If Duke's really is a racist then he sucks at it.

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^ and what's sad is moon or anyone will come to mallets aid on this . This guy has been destroyed in the media ever since college, yet he didn't take 80 grand To play at ARK or MICH
I don't know....what was the street value of the drugs he took to feed his addiction? Lol.

Still no one should come to his aid if all this stuff is true. If he did it then he did it and a team should hold it against him when it comes to considering weather or not to invest time and money in developing him. Just like GM's should hold Newton's shady past against him when considering investing in him with a high draft pick.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:56 PM   #47
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Phil Simms thinks Mallet and Newton are top 10 talent. Wow. Newton maybe Mallet nO way in hell.
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^ Mallett is a better QB than Cam Newton my man
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^ Mallett is a better QB than Cam Newton my man
As an overall player he's not. So if Newton and Mallet are both there you'd take Mallet....... If you had to choose. I personally don't want nothing to do with both of them.
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^ Mallett is a better QB than Cam Newton my man
I agree. If I were forced to choose between the two, I'd take Mallett. His arm likely will lend him a longer career than Newton. But I don't think that either one is right for us.
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As an overall player he's not. So if Newton and Mallet are both there you'd take Mallet....... If you had to choose. I personally don't want nothing to do with both of them.
I don't want Newton, but only because he's black. If he was white then all of his character problems would be okay

Still if we're going to use race as a determining factor for who to select then we should just settle on Kaepernick. Half Black, half white. As most geneticist know, genetic diversity produces the strongest offspring.
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I don't want Newton, but only because he's black. If he was white then all of his character problems would be okay

Still if we're going to use race as a determining factor for who to select then we should just settle on Kaepernick. Half Black, half white. As most geneticist know, genetic diversity produces the strongest offspring.
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^ Mallett is a better QB than Cam Newton my man
In your opinion....
Nobody will know for sure al least for another couple of years. That is the beauty of the NFL and the draft.
Charlie Casserly was making an astute point the other day about player evaluation. In talking about how two of the three best qb's in the NFL today (Brady, Brees and Peyton Manning), two were not the first Qb taken in their draft and all the talent evaluation was wrong on Brees and Brady. They were rated too low.
So out the three best Qb's in the NFL today, only one of the three draft evaluation was correct. That is 33.333% and very low.
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This thread is funny and scary at the same time.
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Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton might not be important to you, but if I got my ass beat by the police or was discriminated against these are the guys I want in my corner. You need to check your history son I'm talking about the 50's and 60's when things you don't even understand were going on these guys don't mean much to you. But attacking them personally and they are Icons in the black community makes me sad for you my friend.
Tyler Perry's supposedly an "icon" in the black community... and that makes me sad.
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Mallet has grown on me, but I dont see him as the right fit here. He'd be great in Minnesota with Musgrave
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Tyler Perry's supposedly an "icon" in the black community... and that makes me sad.
Tyler Perry annoys me because he comes out with a new movie every month, but I have a tremendous amount of respect for him. He's a survivor of childhood abuse, the kind that leaves most people in pieces. However he was able to overcome it and create an empire for himself. The fact that he came out and talked about in the interest of helping to encourage others to come forward is amazing in and of itself.
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White or black that's a bush league comment , people act like whites are way better off but that's not true at all
Ok. Some people scratch that lots of people dont agree with you. I've seen whites get treated better in certain cases, I've seen blacks get treated better in certain cases. Is it 50/50? No, only a naive dumbass would believe that, but you can't look me in the computer screen and tell me everyone gets treated the same regardless what their race is.
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I don't think it's all that racist, but IMO the point here is the double standard we see so often in today's society with regard to race issues between blacks and whites.

More often than not, if a white guy is referred to by a black guy as "white boy" or a white guy does something athletic and you hear "not bad for a white guy," most people don't bat an eye. Just like Jamie Dukes can call Mallett a white street guy, and no one outside the blogosphere cares.

But if Rich Eisen had called Julio Jones a "black boy," or street, hood, ghetto, nappy headed, or some other term of that nature, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be beating down his door.

Me personally, I don't really give a damn. Skin color has never really mattered to me. But the double standard annoys me.
Get used to it GM. America lives off of double standards.
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Not a big Duke's fan b/c, as someone else said, he's just another talking head who, IMO, doesn't bring anything to the table. As to the particular comment, whatever, as others have said, poor word choice. Happens to all of us every now and then.

Also, not sure if anyone realizes this, Dukes was actually trying to compliment Mallet and say that, essentially, his personality is somewhat off-putting b/c he isn't a corporate whitewashed Disney QB. Dukes then implied, through very inept phrasing, that Mallet's personality meshed well with his teammates and would bring something different to the table.

Of course, Cosell was trying to compliment V. Seay when Cosell called him "that little monkey".
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