Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated

Swarley · 04-29-2011, 06:50 PM

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Motion for temp stay granted. Lockout back on.

JoeRedskin · 04-29-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

Its in the 8th circuit now, things are frozen until the 8th circuit can hear from the NFLPA on the issue of whether a lockout would cause immediate irreparable harm which will happen at the final protective order hearing within a week. Then we wait until there is a hearing on the actual merits of the appeal. The 8th circuit will not decide this case, it will be remanded back down to Judge Nelson with instructions imo.

Short version is = this has nothing to do with the merits of the appeal, it is a very normal ancillary step in the appellate process. We normally file 2 motions for stays, 1 in trial court and other contemporaneously with the appeal petition itself.

For the substantive injunctive relief, don't they also have to show liklihood of success. I was sure that was one of the factors.

Dirtbag59 · 04-29-2011, 09:03 PM

F**k you owners. You bleed us dry then you take away football so you can bleed us further. What's the chance fans will see price reductions if the players give in to what they want?

Ruhskins · 04-29-2011, 09:07 PM

The players should stall on this the same way the league did when Judge Nelson ordered the lockout to be ended.

djnemo65 · 04-29-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

For the substantive injunctive relief, don't they also have to show liklihood of success. I was sure that was one of the factors.

According to my civil procedure notes likelihood of success on the merits is one of four factors that courts weigh when considering an injunction, but circuits are split on whether each of these factors needs to be satisfied to grant the injunction or whether the four instead function as a balancing test. Keep in mind that I've forgotten everything I learned in civpro so this could be completely wrong. But that's what I have written down.

JoeRedskin · 04-29-2011, 10:17 PM

^^ lol, yeah. It's one of the four factors and I think that the balancing test is just that with a lot of discretion given to the trial judge. Irreprable harm, liklihood of success - what are the other two? I forgot. Used to do a lot of injunction work but it's been a while.

Dirtbag59 · 04-29-2011, 11:08 PM

Fans: "We want football! We want football! We want football! "

Goodell: I hear you, I hear you.

Day after: Judges temporarily reinstate lockout.

sportscurmudgeon · 04-29-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

F**k you owners. You bleed us dry then you take away football so you can bleed us further. What's the chance fans will see price reductions if the players give in to what they want?

Without resorting to profanity, the answer is that the fans have ZERO chance of seeing price reductions no matter what the outcome of all these legal entanglements and CBA negotiations.

And that is why the billionaire owners and the millionaire players and all of their lawyers can drag all this out forever. Because in the end, the fans will continue to fork over $9+ B in revenue each and every year...

Hog1 · 04-29-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Without resorting to profanity, the answer is that the fans have ZERO chance of seeing price reductions no matter what the outcome of all these legal entanglements and CBA negotiations.

And that is why the billionaire owners and the millionaire players and all of their lawyers can drag all this out forever. Because in the end, the fans will continue to fork over $9+ B in revenue each and every year...

Sooo...let me see if I have this. The Players will NOT agree to fund a reduction in ticket pricing to the fan from their end of the pot?
Hmmm....who would have thought........

NC_Skins · 04-30-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Sooo...let me see if I have this. The Players will NOT agree to fund a reduction in ticket pricing to the fan from their end of the pot?
Hmmm....who would have thought........

?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

gafinfan · 05-03-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

What a great way to lower labor cost. To bad thats not the way it works, do you really think a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type is going to settle for a lower contract because the owner wants - is willing to lower ticket prices?

I don't think so ................

Call Albert and ask him again if hes willing to give back that 21 Mil just so you can pay a lower ticket price. Go ahead ...... I'll wait.

Darrell_Green_28 · 05-03-2011, 04:22 PM

Any update on this crap? Haven't seen anything more. The Players had til Monday to respond or something, but other than that I haven't hear anything. Anyone know anything?

firstdown · 05-03-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.

You forgot if the profits are higher the players get more. Both sides are to blame for whats going on here.

SmootSmack · 05-03-2011, 04:38 PM

8th Circuit Court granted the NFL's request for an expedited hearing...so I believe the lockout will continue until at least early June

SmootSmack · 05-03-2011, 05:03 PM

Sorry looks like the setting of the dates has no bearing on whether stay will be lifted. That should be decided within the next 48 hours

This is why my mom wanted me to go to law school I guess

04-29-2011, 06:50 PM	#151
Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 1,035	re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated AdamSchefter Adam Schefter Motion for temp stay granted. Lockout back on. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

04-29-2011, 09:03 PM	#153
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Fk you owners. You bleed us dry then you take away football so you can bleed us further. What's the chance fans will see price reductions if the players give in to what they want? __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President**

04-29-2011, 09:07 PM	#154
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated The players should stall on this the same way the league did when Judge Nelson ordered the lockout to be ended. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

04-29-2011, 10:17 PM	#156
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,164	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated ^^ lol, yeah. It's one of the four factors and I think that the balancing test is just that with a lot of discretion given to the trial judge. Irreprable harm, liklihood of success - what are the other two? I forgot. Used to do a lot of injunction work but it's been a while. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

04-29-2011, 11:08 PM	#157
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Fans: "We want football! We want football! We want football! " Goodell: I hear you, I hear you. Day after: Judges temporarily reinstate lockout. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

05-03-2011, 04:22 PM	#162
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Age: 44 Posts: 1,949	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Any update on this crap? Haven't seen anything more. The Players had til Monday to respond or something, but other than that I haven't hear anything. Anyone know anything? __________________ Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

05-03-2011, 04:38 PM	#164
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated 8th Circuit Court granted the NFL's request for an expedited hearing...so I believe the lockout will continue until at least early June __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-03-2011, 05:03 PM	#165
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Updated Title: 8th Circuit Court Grants Stay, Lockout Reinstated Sorry looks like the setting of the dates has no bearing on whether stay will be lifted. That should be decided within the next 48 hours This is why my mom wanted me to go to law school I guess __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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