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Old 04-29-2011, 07:50 PM   #151
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Motion for temp stay granted. Lockout back on.
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Old 04-29-2011, 08:37 PM   #152
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Re: Owners' Motion for Stay Pending Appeal Denied

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Its in the 8th circuit now, things are frozen until the 8th circuit can hear from the NFLPA on the issue of whether a lockout would cause immediate irreparable harm which will happen at the final protective order hearing within a week. Then we wait until there is a hearing on the actual merits of the appeal. The 8th circuit will not decide this case, it will be remanded back down to Judge Nelson with instructions imo.

Short version is = this has nothing to do with the merits of the appeal, it is a very normal ancillary step in the appellate process. We normally file 2 motions for stays, 1 in trial court and other contemporaneously with the appeal petition itself.
For the substantive injunctive relief, don't they also have to show liklihood of success. I was sure that was one of the factors.
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:03 PM   #153
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F**k you owners. You bleed us dry then you take away football so you can bleed us further. What's the chance fans will see price reductions if the players give in to what they want?
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Old 04-29-2011, 10:07 PM   #154
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The players should stall on this the same way the league did when Judge Nelson ordered the lockout to be ended.
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For the substantive injunctive relief, don't they also have to show liklihood of success. I was sure that was one of the factors.
According to my civil procedure notes likelihood of success on the merits is one of four factors that courts weigh when considering an injunction, but circuits are split on whether each of these factors needs to be satisfied to grant the injunction or whether the four instead function as a balancing test. Keep in mind that I've forgotten everything I learned in civpro so this could be completely wrong. But that's what I have written down.
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^^ lol, yeah. It's one of the four factors and I think that the balancing test is just that with a lot of discretion given to the trial judge. Irreprable harm, liklihood of success - what are the other two? I forgot. Used to do a lot of injunction work but it's been a while.
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Old 04-30-2011, 12:08 AM   #157
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Fans: "We want football! We want football! We want football! "

Goodell: I hear you, I hear you.

Day after: Judges temporarily reinstate lockout.
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F**k you owners. You bleed us dry then you take away football so you can bleed us further. What's the chance fans will see price reductions if the players give in to what they want?

Without resorting to profanity, the answer is that the fans have ZERO chance of seeing price reductions no matter what the outcome of all these legal entanglements and CBA negotiations.

And that is why the billionaire owners and the millionaire players and all of their lawyers can drag all this out forever. Because in the end, the fans will continue to fork over $9+ B in revenue each and every year...
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Without resorting to profanity, the answer is that the fans have ZERO chance of seeing price reductions no matter what the outcome of all these legal entanglements and CBA negotiations.

And that is why the billionaire owners and the millionaire players and all of their lawyers can drag all this out forever. Because in the end, the fans will continue to fork over $9+ B in revenue each and every year...
Sooo...let me see if I have this. The Players will NOT agree to fund a reduction in ticket pricing to the fan from their end of the pot?
Hmmm....who would have thought........
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Old 04-30-2011, 09:42 AM   #160
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Sooo...let me see if I have this. The Players will NOT agree to fund a reduction in ticket pricing to the fan from their end of the pot?
Hmmm....who would have thought........
?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.
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?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.
What a great way to lower labor cost. To bad thats not the way it works, do you really think a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type is going to settle for a lower contract because the owner wants - is willing to lower ticket prices?

I don't think so ................

Call Albert and ask him again if hes willing to give back that 21 Mil just so you can pay a lower ticket price. Go ahead ...... I'll wait.
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Any update on this crap? Haven't seen anything more. The Players had til Monday to respond or something, but other than that I haven't hear anything. Anyone know anything?
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?? The players dont' set the prices for tickets. That would be the owners. The players get a percentage of the total revenue. If that revenue is lower, then they'll take a lower percentage. I think you are barking up the wrong tree my friend.
You forgot if the profits are higher the players get more. Both sides are to blame for whats going on here.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:38 PM   #164
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8th Circuit Court granted the NFL's request for an expedited hearing...so I believe the lockout will continue until at least early June
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:03 PM   #165
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Sorry looks like the setting of the dates has no bearing on whether stay will be lifted. That should be decided within the next 48 hours

This is why my mom wanted me to go to law school I guess
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