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Old 05-05-2011, 01:28 PM   #76
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Re: CJ28 Doesn't like COPS. Says "It's hard being young, black and rich"

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If I see them selling or doing drugs then I would call the police but unless they bring it to my front door, what they do in their house in private is none of my business.
You seem a little ultra....sensitive to the subject. You might have a problem if:

You have that Problem...Meth Lab odor around your house.
You frequently pay for your Sams Club bill in 10's and 20's.
You have more than 4 Escalades parked in front of your house.
You think "Privacy glass" is an inalienable right.
You have a drive up window at your place that stays 6 cars deep.
You have......"clients" that continue to call you Huggy Bear.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:32 PM   #77
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You seem a little ultra....sensitive to the subject. You might have a problem if:

You have that Problem...Meth Lab odor around your house.
You frequently pay for your Sams Club bill in 10's and 20's.
You have more than 4 Escalades parked in front of your house.
You think "Privacy glass" is an inalienable right.
You have a drive up window at your place that stays 6 cars deep.
You have......"clients" that continue to call you Huggy Bear.
I'm not sensitive at all, I am the kind of person that will analyse before I do something, if the situation doesn't directly effect me, I tend to not care about it.
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I'm not sensitive at all, I am the kind of person that will analyse before I do something, if the situation doesn't directly effect me, I tend to not care about it.
Im inclined to agree with quake on this one. One thing ive always said is that if its not my buisness than its none of my buisness. Once it becomes public or out in the open in my neighborhood than it is my buisness. What goes on behind someones closed door is none of my buisness.
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Let's be careful here people. I know we have a large number of members here who are both black and white. Please read your responses before you hit "post," and let's make sure we're not offending anyone. Remember the motto of this forum- for the INTELLIGENT fans. Let's act as such.

Discussions of race are delicate, and the language and verbage we use needs to follow suit.
My point was not to sound racist or ruffle any feathers. My point was that, it sounded like people were complaining that the "cops" were profiling and in this case that would be wrong. Even in the beginning of my comment you would notice I said I was not singling out Schneed10 because I was not sure if his comment was saying the cops were profiling or the neighbor, but that in this case the cops did not profile.

With the other comments made I was simply asking that if a call goes out to the police that there is suspicous activity and after arriving, what are they supposed to do if they have been called out there?

I'll be the first to agree African Americans or minorities in general, a lot of the time are not treated fairly. I would be ignorant to say "no there is no such thing as profiling." But in this case it's hard to tell if the "neighbor" was profiling or not. We don't have their side of the story. What if the neighbor was African American also?

People here were quick to jump on the foot ball players inuendo that he was being singled out because he was "black and rich." In other words it's the cops or a neighbor who were being racist and profiling. and all I'm trying to point out is the cops were doing their jobs. They were called there. Someone reported suspicous activity and we don't know exactly what activity was going on. I would like to think any and all of us would call the cops if we saw "anyone" who had suspicous activity and that does not constitute anyone being racist or profiling.
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Im inclined to agree with quake on this one. One thing ive always said is that if its not my buisness than its none of my buisness. Once it becomes public or out in the open in my neighborhood than it is my buisness. What goes on behind someones closed door is none of my buisness.
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I never said selling drugs was better or worse than buying them. I don't think Schneed is making any absolute statements like wealthy people would NEVER sell drugs. Certainly there are plenty of people in all income brackets that have issues with drugs- being it selling or using.

But I think it's a very logical conclusion to say that the likelihood of a poor person selling drugs (regardless of race) is much higher than a rich person. It's kind of a no-brainer.
Honestly, drugs effect all walks of life. Rich or poor it doesn't matter. There are rich people out there who are living beyond their means as well as poor people. and race does not matter either. Part of the problem is the economy and availability of jobs. The economy has tanked and people are/were losing their jobs. Either they are using drugs to blank out the issue or they are selling in order to support their families.

But, we don't have to assumed that the nosey neighbor thought drugs were being sold. What if the neighbor thought the owner was in some kind of trouble? especially if there have been home invasions in the area recently. or thought someone had broken into the neighbors house? especially if they had not seen the owner.

I just don't like seeing people automatically jumping to the conclusion that all police officers are bad or that everyone profiles when in reality the police were called to the house because of a neighbor, and we don't know what the neighbor had seen to make them want to call the police.

I have a lot of police friends and can tell you that depending on what the "suspicous activity" was yes the cops will sit back and try to observe what is going on before making contact. But as I just stated we don't know what the neighbor used as "suspicous activity" and if the police sit back and don't go to the residence then "if" a crime is being committed then they might lose out on having a suspect.

Everyone is hung up on the suspicous activity wording, in order to keep a record on every call the police department has to file whatever the behavior is into some sort of catagory. A lot of behavior can fall under suspicous activity; an unknown vehicle seen several times in your area, a high volume of traffic coming and going from a residence, screaming from a neighbors residence, a man half naked walking down the street. Purchase a scanner and listen to all the BS calls that police have to respond to; one that ticks me off is "a man walking down the road in camoflage carrying a gun", during hunting season. Hello? but because the police got the call they have to look into it. God forbid they don't look into it and a crime occurred, how would that sound in the paper the next day? Police were called out and failed to show up or investigate.
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Now assuming ANY color be it black, white, red, blue or fusion green is up to no good based on some cars being there is ignorant and racist
When you first arrived on this site I figured eh, young kid, I'll let him slide. But you apparently haven't gotten any smarter as you've aged.

Go back and re-read. Do not address me again until you've read it over at least 100 times.
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Im inclined to agree with quake on this one. One thing ive always said is that if its not my buisness than its none of my buisness. Once it becomes public or out in the open in my neighborhood than it is my buisness. What goes on behind someones closed door is none of my buisness.
Couldn't possibly disagree with that more. If there's a drug dealer in my neighborhood, or even if there's SUSPICION of a drug dealer in my neighborhood, it will depress the value of my home.

Neighborhoods with drug dealers are generally considered undesirable places to live. Imagine that.

If the guy next door to me likes to play loud music, I'll ask him to stop or call the cops. If people in my neighborhood drive too fast up and down the street, I'll ask them to slow down. If I suspect someone is dealing drugs or running a prostitution ring, you better believe I'd call the cops.

When I sell my house I'd like it to go for 10% more than I bought it, not 10% less.
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He must have it pretty easy when he can describe his life as being "hard" and link it to this incident. With all (other) things being equal, I think there's nothing hard about being young and rich except staying rich no matter what color you are.
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Im inclined to agree with quake on this one. One thing ive always said is that if its not my buisness than its none of my buisness. Once it becomes public or out in the open in my neighborhood than it is my buisness. What goes on behind someones closed door is none of my buisness.
I somewhat totally agree with you. You want to drink beer all night long naked go right ahead. You want to smoke marijuana all night long go right ahead.

If your selling drugs all night long then it does effect others; high traffic, unsavory people who no one knows coming and going from the neighborhood, and as someone else said that behavior usually leads to other behavior. Like people robbing the drug dealer for the drugs and money. People shooting at other people. No it doesn't happen every day but do you want to be outside in your front yard with your kids when it does? no. So neighbors complain of suspicous activity because they want the police to check it out and make sure thats not happening so they can feel safe.
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Frankly, yes.

Crime happens in lower income areas because the people don't make much money. If I'm making $150,000 a year there's a lot more to lose if I'm caught selling drugs. There's also less to gain; the person making $150,000 doesn't need drug money to make ends meet.

The people who turn to selling drugs are often lower-income and often uneducated.

There will always be exceptions, but if we're talking about the most accurate way to profile somebody, it's based on income levels, not race or gender.

Completely agree. While there is a racial component to this, I don't think we should be quick to racialize (I know, not a word) everything.

Truth is, we all have prejudices. At times we lean toward them more or less depending on our surroundings and the information we've gathered over the years. I'm not justifying the actions of either party in this situation, but it is what it is.

I've just come to learn that not all things that appear to be racist is racism, sometimes it's just plain old everyday ignorance and you just have to leave it there and keep it moving.

That said, I think black athletes do live under more of a public microscope related to their comings and goings. Why is that? I think that's another can of worms all by itself.
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