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Old 05-11-2011, 10:55 AM   #31
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What about Montgomery? didn't he fill in center during the Packers game, the line seemed solid in the middle with him in there.

either way Casey needs to be gone
I don't know about the Packers game but I know he filled in during the Titans game. Rabach was getting run over or man handled and poor McNabb was being rushed or sacked. After Montgomery replaced Rabach the Titans could not sustain a decent pass rush and McNabb I don't think was even sacked.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:55 AM   #32
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Coaches have valued the leadership Rabach provides, but he wasn’t as effective last year while playing through several injuries. He needed shoulder surgery this offseason. Montgomery and Lichtensteiger both are natural centers, but saw significant time at the right and left guard positions, respectively. Hicks can play guard or tackle. He began last season at right guard, but was slowed by groin and thigh injuries. He lost his job to Montgomery and never regained it once healthy.
I think both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger should be competing for the Center position. They're both Centers playing Guard and would be more effective in the middle.

Goodbye Casey. Thanks for the effort over the years.
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I think both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger should be competing for the Center position. They're both Centers playing Guard and would be more effective in the middle.

Goodbye Casey. Thanks for the effort over the years.
LT - Williams
LG - Kory L
C - Montgomery
RG - BMW
RT - Brown or Harirs.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:19 PM   #34
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F**K YEAH! Pass catchers rule. When has anyone seen a lineman score a touchdown. Oh right NEVER! Pass catchers RULE!
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and just by getting WRs doesn't mean we can't address the O-Line lol
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:22 PM   #35
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Game tapes show far too many QB hurries as well as sacks originated from the O gap. Yet, watching a recent interview Larry Michael conducted with Chris Foerster the O-line coach, he had nothing but praise for Rabach. Perhaps he see's something we don't.
I think we're all missing something. A couple of years ago Madden said that Rabach was having a Pro Bowl season the first half. Zorn seemed to love the guy; one of Shanahan/Allen's first moves was to pay the guy 12 mil over 3 years before probably even working with him.

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I think both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger should be competing for the Center position. They're both Centers playing Guard and would be more effective in the middle.

Goodbye Casey. Thanks for the effort over the years.
Agreed fully
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I think we're all missing something. A couple of years ago Madden said that Rabach was having a Pro Bowl season the first half. Zorn seemed to love the guy; one of Shanahan/Allen's first moves was to pay the guy 12 mil over 3 years before probably even working with him.

Who knows?
Zorn was also the last Redskins coach to field a competent offense, with or without Rabach.
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LT-Trent Williams
LG-Corey Lichtensteiger
C-?? Samson Satele
RG-Will Montgomery
RT-?? Matt Light

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LT-Trent Williams
OG-Corey Lichtenstieger
C-Will Monty
OG-??Logan Mankins/Davin Joseph
OT-??Matt Light

Logan Mankins New England Patriots UFA OG
Samson Satele Oakland Raiders UFA C
Kasey Studdard Houston Texans UFA OG
Davin Joseph Tampa Bay Buccaneers UFA OG



Matt Light New England Patriots UFA OT
Ryan Harris Broncos UFA OT
Jamaal Brown
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:01 PM   #39
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Well I thought Kory L. would be our starter C by some point last season. This season I think it will be a pretty open competition.

As I'd last heard it, the plan isn't for Big Mike to start. Even though they'd like him back

The guy I really wonder about is Hicks. I think he was pretty much a disaster of a FA pick, but I haven't heard that he won't be back
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Zorn was also the last Redskins coach to field a competent offense, with or without Rabach.
Bring back Zorn!
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Well I thought Kory L. would be our starter C by some point last season. This season I think it will be a pretty open competition.

As I'd last heard it, the plan isn't for Big Mike to start. Even though they'd like him back

The guy I really wonder about is Hicks. I think he was pretty much a disaster of a FA pick, but I haven't heard that he won't be back
To be fair, when we talk about a plan to have next year's first overall pick, Casey Rabach's proven veteran leadership is an invaluable tool to accomplish our goals this season.
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Many questions remain about the Redskins most scrutinized unit. Among them what do the Redskins do after drafting only one offensive lineman in 7th round pick Maurice Hurt?

The unit seemed to perform much better in the second half of the season but still left room for concern.

The Skins have frequently been linked to Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris. However 2010 rules put both at risk to remain RFA's. To make matters worse the Buc's are also rumored to have made signing Joseph to a long term contract a priority.

Further complicating matters is Jammal Brown. The All-Pro tackle that struggled in the first half of the season after dealing with a hip injury that was aggravated by the fact that he was playing on the Right Side. However Brown also seemed to be his old self near the end of the year and was easily one of the Skins favorite blockers to run behind once he recovered.

Brown is rumored to want to play Left Tackle else where and in a free agent market that could easily be devoid of talent a player of Brown's caliber will stand out.

Also how are the young developmental projects in Cook and Capers coming? Have the coaching staff seen enough promise in either of them to justify using only one of 12 picks on an offensive lineman?

Finally how do the Redskins deal with the black sheep of the unit in Rabach and Heyer? Heyer seemed to improve by leaps and bounds over his 2009 performance and looks to be a valuable asset as a swing tackle. Rabach on the other hand did little to silence critics that claim he is a liability when it comes to other teams trying to get a push up the middle. The team has already cut ties with long time Redskin Derrick Dockery and possibly split over weather or not to keep Artis Hicks.

Either way much remains to be answered about the teams current state of affairs up front.

Dirtbag59's Projected Opening day line up as of 5/4/2011
LT - Williams - Heyer
LG - Kory L
C - Rabach - Cook
RG - Montgomery - Capers
RT - Brown/Harris? - Xavier Fulton
On a positive note, the one offensive lineman we did draft was from the SEC, you have to feel good about that.
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I want the Redskins to start all of their young O-Linemen. Bye Bye Rabach, Hicks, etc. If John Beck is going to be our starting QB we might as well find out if our young linemen can play.

LT - Williams
LG - Lichtensteiger
C- Montgomery
RG - Cook (they said he is too tall to play center)
RT - Capers
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To be fair, when we talk about a plan to have next year's first overall pick, Casey Rabach's proven veteran leadership is an invaluable tool to accomplish our goals this season.
Why the hatin' on Casey "Turnstile" Rabach. I'm not sure if turnstile is appropriate though, to be fair to the turnstile, it only lets one person through at a time.
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Bring back Zorn!
Sorry to break the bad news, but I think the Browns saw his potential and hired him. The Skins could offer a couple of draft picks for him though.
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