Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-10-2011, 12:37 AM   #61
Impact Rookie
 
skinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 754
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule View Post
How many teams can you cite that followed your road to glory? I can maybe think of one, though I doubt they planned it out, and that would be the Colts. For a team to tank a season (ie 0 or 1 wins) the issues have to be so systemic, and ingrained that a team won't go to elite status. It just doesn't work that way. It hasn't and it wouldn't for us. More likely, along the lines of the Broncos that Shanahan took to the SB in back to back years you start with a nucleus ( shanahan went 8-8 his first year) you add quality, depth and team guys, (SB next year) and you build on those qualities every year evaluating your team, and the individuals.
That's how the elite teams have done it. No other way. Tanking sends a simple message, one guy is more special than all of you on the team now. That WILL NOT result in an elite team. And history backs that fact up, nothing backs up tanking. (Except in the VC school of EVPOFO).
History backs me up. Elite qbs=elite teams
higher draft picks=better improvement to teams
skinster is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 05-10-2011, 12:47 AM   #62
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,794
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

So your stance, skinster, is that we should make every attempt to lose as much as possible next year so that we can hopefully get the no. 1 pick and draft Andrew Luck?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 12:58 AM   #63
Impact Rookie
 
skinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 754
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
So your stance, skinster, is that we should make every attempt to lose as much as possible next year so that we can hopefully get the no. 1 pick and draft Andrew Luck?
Lets rate our happyness with our team from 1-10 from year to year. Last place will be a 1. 8-8 IMO is about a 3.5. Any team that is truley competative for a superbowl is at least an 8.

I'm looking at my overall happyness with my team over the next ten years and I want to have the highest average possible. IMO the best way to get the higest average is to get luck.

So I don't want to say that our strategy should be to lose because that is demoralizing to do, but if we do lose and get luck, EVERY redskins fan will have a higher average happyness rating over the next ten years.

So yes I am saying it is in our best interest to get last place this year.
skinster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 01:02 AM   #64
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,711
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
So your stance, skinster, is that we should make every attempt to lose as much as possible next year so that we can hopefully get the no. 1 pick and draft Andrew Luck?
Well just for the record so theres no confusion. My stance is I pray to God an AFC team gets the number 1 pick next year. If Vinny/Spurrier and Vinny/Zorn can't get higher then 4 then I have a hard time believing that Shanallen can get to 1.

Also once again keep in mind that Luck could easily return to school in 2012 so having the number 1 pick in 2012 doesn't mean you'll be in any sort of position to select Luck. Though I feel much stronger about Matt Barkley going back then I do Luck.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 01:13 AM   #65
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,794
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinster View Post
Lets rate our happyness with our team from 1-10 from year to year. Last place will be a 1. 8-8 IMO is about a 3.5. Any team that is truley competative for a superbowl is at least an 8.

I'm looking at my overall happyness with my team over the next ten years and I want to have the highest average possible. IMO the best way to get the higest average is to get luck.

So I don't want to say that our strategy should be to lose because that is demoralizing to do, but if we do lose and get luck, EVERY redskins fan will have a higher average happyness rating over the next ten years.

So yes I am saying it is in our best interest to get last place this year.
The Pursuit of Happyness?

So..you don't want us to lose, yet you want us to finish in last place. Because then maybe we'll get Luck and the next decade will be pure bliss?
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 01:18 AM   #66
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,711
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
What a great sales pitch though

"Hey Santana, we'd love to re-sign you. We think you'd be great for the team...as we attempt to tank the season in order to maybe, possibly get Luck. You down?!"
Tana's 5'9. He's already down har har har.
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 01:41 AM   #67
Impact Rookie
 
skinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 754
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
The Pursuit of Happyness?

So..you don't want us to lose, yet you want us to finish in last place. Because then maybe we'll get Luck and the next decade will be pure bliss?
yea. Of course as a redskins fan I want wins. I just think the best way to maximize wins is through a franchise qb, which is hard to come by. I believe luck is that guy. I'll take a bad season for decade of good ones.
skinster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 02:13 AM   #68
Gamebreaker
 
tryfuhl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waldorf, MD
Age: 31
Posts: 12,514
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinster View Post
yea. Of course as a redskins fan I want wins. I just think the best way to maximize wins is through a franchise qb, which is hard to come by. I believe luck is that guy. I'll take a bad season for decade of good ones.
And what do we have to support him?
tryfuhl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 02:20 AM   #69
Impact Rookie
 
skinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 754
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryfuhl View Post
And what do we have to support him?
that will come. He won't even be in full stride till year 3 or so. but when the opportunity comes to get him, we get him. Franchise qb's don't come around very often. I'd argue that there were none this year.

Bradford is the savior of the rams. Believe you me they will be good in the future.

Luck will be the savior of whatever team takes him.
skinster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 02:53 AM   #70
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,711
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Tanking the season for Luck?
__________________
"It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."
- Scooter

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 03:31 AM   #71
The Starter
 
NM Redskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,009
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

How can Luck not be a bust? With all the hype surrounding this guy, there is no way he live up to it.
__________________
Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!
NM Redskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 04:57 AM   #72
The Starter
 
Swarley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Age: 25
Posts: 1,035
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

I'll pose the same question I always pose when I hear the asinine idea of tanking a season.

How many teams in the league have found their franchise QB's by picking them 1st overall in the draft?
__________________
doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!
Swarley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 08:09 AM   #73
Impact Rookie
 
skinster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 754
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekSkin View Post
I'll pose the same question I always pose when I hear the asinine idea of tanking a season.

How many teams in the league have found their franchise QB's by picking them 1st overall in the draft?
there's certain guys that you just know are gonna be great. Since my fanship of following the draft (7 years or so), sam bradford was the only one for me that was a lock. Andrew Luck is numero dos. These guys just dont come around so often.
skinster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 08:40 AM   #74
Mann Up HOF!
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 10,768
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinster View Post
History backs me up. Elite qbs=elite teams
higher draft picks=better improvement to teams
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekSkin View Post
I'll pose the same question I always pose when I hear the asinine idea of tanking a season.

How many teams in the league have found their franchise QB's by picking them 1st overall in the draft?
Let's look at GreekSkin's fine question, albeit reformulated: how many of the last few Super Bowl winners found their QB at #1? Answer: None.

History does not back you up, Skinster, as you claim.
__________________
Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 09:21 AM   #75
Playmaker
 
Longtimefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germantown, Md.
Posts: 4,832
Re: rebuilding or FA frenzy?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
And if you are rooting for 0-16, we better not once next season read any comments from you complaining about how we sucked, or I can't believe we missed that block, dropped that TD, made that call, etc.
What a sight to see the other mid-level teams adopt the skinster philosophy. Anyone who pays to see their favorite team play would find [rooting to lose] totally out of line.
__________________
A revolution is coming and it will be televised.
Longtimefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28799 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25