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Old 05-10-2011, 10:40 AM   #91
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:16 AM   #92
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Let's just tank 5 seasons in a row and build up a hell of a roster with all the top picks we'll have! Watch out NFL in about 10 years!
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Old 05-10-2011, 11:23 AM   #93
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We're not going to tank the season so we'll lighten the load and take a look at what really happened this week in history.

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Old 05-10-2011, 11:23 AM   #94
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Let's just tank 5 seasons in a row and build up a hell of a roster with all the top picks we'll have! Watch out NFL in about 10 years!
We just tried that. It didn't work like we had hoped.
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:54 PM   #95
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Let's look at GreekSkin's fine question, albeit reformulated: how many of the last few Super Bowl winners found their QB at #1? Answer: None.

History does not back you up, Skinster, as you claim.
Here are some statistics to add to this.

Drafted #1 Superbowl Winners

1970 (Steelers) -- Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana Tech
1983 (Colts) -- John Elway, Stanford *
1989 (Cowboys) -- Troy Aikman, UCLA
1993 (Patriots) -- Drew Bledsoe, Washington State **
1999 (Colts) -- Peyton Manning, Tennessee
2004 (Chargers) -- Eli Manning, Mississippi *

*Drafted #1 and then traded.
** Lost starting job due to injury.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:21 PM   #96
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Here are some statistics to add to this.

Drafted #1 Superbowl Winners

1970 (Steelers) -- Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana Tech
1983 (Colts) -- John Elway, Stanford *
1989 (Cowboys) -- Troy Aikman, UCLA
1993 (Patriots) -- Drew Bledsoe, Washington State **
1999 (Colts) -- Peyton Manning, Tennessee
2004 (Chargers) -- Eli Manning, Mississippi *

*Drafted #1 and then traded.
** Lost starting job due to injury.
Good job Drew. So about 1.5 years a decade see a #1 QB win a Super Bowl.

QED 8.5 years out of 10 see Super Bowls won by QB's taken later.

History is NOT on the side of the "Suck to get Luck" argument.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:41 PM   #97
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Here are some statistics to add to this.

Drafted #1 Superbowl Winners

1970 (Steelers) -- Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana Tech
1983 (Colts) -- John Elway, Stanford *
1989 (Cowboys) -- Troy Aikman, UCLA
1993 (Patriots) -- Drew Bledsoe, Washington State **
1999 (Colts) -- Peyton Manning, Tennessee
2004 (Chargers) -- Eli Manning, Mississippi *

*Drafted #1 and then traded.
** Lost starting job due to injury.
Drew Bledsoe should not count. He was not the starter during the SB year and it wasn't until he got hurt that Brady came in and the team started winning. They started the season 0-3 or something like that under Blesdoe and he was not playing well.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:44 PM   #98
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Let's just tank 5 seasons in a row and build up a hell of a roster with all the top picks we'll have! Watch out NFL in about 10 years!
And make sure that all of our starters are under the age of 25. LOL.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:09 PM   #99
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Isn't it a little early to claim that Luck will go #1? He could have a horrible season, he could get injured, he could pull a "Locker." it might turn out his success came from having Harbaugh as his head coach, anything could happen. We do need a qb but its obvious from previous SB winners it doesn't have to be a can't miss prospect.
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Here are some statistics to add to this.

Drafted #1 Superbowl Winners

1970 (Steelers) -- Terry Bradshaw, Louisiana Tech
1983 (Colts) -- John Elway, Stanford *
1989 (Cowboys) -- Troy Aikman, UCLA
1993 (Patriots) -- Drew Bledsoe, Washington State **
1999 (Colts) -- Peyton Manning, Tennessee
2004 (Chargers) -- Eli Manning, Mississippi *

*Drafted #1 and then traded.
** Lost starting job due to injury.
what was it you said about history supporting you skinster???
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:15 PM   #101
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Let's just tank 5 seasons in a row and build up a hell of a roster with all the top picks we'll have! Watch out NFL in about 10 years!
No one is saying that we should suck for that long. But playing all young guys and sucking for a year with a chance to land Luck isn't going to hurt. We've won how many games the last two years playing older guys??? The Rams getting Bradford just gave their pathetic franchise hope for the next 12 years.
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Isn't it a little early to claim that Luck will go #1? He could have a horrible season, he could get injured, he could pull a "Locker." it might turn out his success came from having Harbaugh as his head coach, anything could happen. We do need a qb but its obvious from previous SB winners it doesn't have to be a can't miss prospect.
Nope, Skinster said he goes 1, so number 1 it is. You need to remember he cares smarter that everybody.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:32 PM   #103
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No one is saying that we should suck for that long. But playing all young guys and sucking for a year with a chance to land Luck isn't going to hurt. We've won how many games the last two years playing older guys??? The Rams getting Bradford just gave their pathetic franchise hope for the next 12 years.
There's a big difference between playing your young team and suffering for a year should they not perform well and outright rooting for the team to suck so you can get the #1 overall pick. We're not going to field a team of rookies this year, you still need to get a few veteran FAs to plug some holes in the team.
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:12 PM   #104
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There's a big difference between playing your young team and suffering for a year should they not perform well and outright rooting for the team to suck so you can get the #1 overall pick. We're not going to field a team of rookies this year, you still need to get a few veteran FAs to plug some holes in the team.
I really don't care how many games we win next year cause this is not a playoff team. It's a REBUILDING JOB! What's the difference between 4-6 wins? Nothing. I'd rather just win 2 and better the draft position. I want a lot of young guys out there, not London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Casey Rabach and Jamal Brown.
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:23 PM   #105
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I really don't care how many games we win next year cause this is not a playoff team. It's a REBUILDING JOB! What's the difference between 4-6 wins? Nothing. I'd rather just win 2 and better the draft position. I want a lot of young guys out there, not London Fletcher, Santana Moss, Casey Rabach and Jamal Brown.
Well, here's a question for you, assuming the schedule is played as written:
are you rooting for the Skins to win week 1, to beat the Giants, OR are you rooting for the Giants, so that we keep our shot at getting Luck alive.

Anyone who could conceivably root for the Giants is not a smarter fan that i am. Sorry, that just ain't.
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